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Judge lets Sony see identities of visitors to GeoHot's PS3 hacking site

By Emil
Mar 6, 2011
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  1. It's no more hacking than finding a key in a door is picking a lock. Buy or rent the games cheapskates.

    If you want to modify your PS3 to be a linux workstation it is your right, you own the hardware, but don't expect Sony to let you use their intellectual property (software) to run cracked games. Try looking at both sides of the argument for a change. I understand games shouldn't cost $60, but they do eventually cost $20 after a year or two. You don't have to own the games right away.
     
  2. Land of milk and honey... So funny!
     
  3. Are you kidding? If someone pays $300 for something, they should be allowed to modify it anyway they see fit. Only an absolute fool would ever cross cracking a PS3 with hacking a government institution.
     
  4. I totally agree on that. I can hack, destroy or set fire to my own ps3. I can do with my own machine as I wash so long as it doesn't hurt anybody. And nobody deserves to be punished for manipulating their own property.
     
  5. mosu

    mosu TS Enthusiast Posts: 307

    In the end the judge will rule that you don't own the PS3 you payed for!!!
     
  6. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    All *****s should be put to death.

    Totally not prejudice and ignorant, right?
     
  7. You people need to realize the guy, whom I'm sure was trolling the other similar articles on the same topic, is trolling. The second you throw any ounce of logic in his diection he'll half attempt a reflute or plain ignore it. Please, do not feed trolls.
     
  8. Relic

    Relic TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,392   +16

    A lot of troll guests here tonight on TechSpot spouting nonsense. Anyway to me it seems like Sony is wanting to go all in with this and they are either going to win big or lose hard.
     
  9. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    trolling guests are worried Sony caught their IP addresses and blame TechSpot for publishing it. bunch of douchebags.
     
  10. I think this kind of hacking is fine. I also condone piracy since it's nothing more than SHARING.
     
  11. Darkshadoe

    Darkshadoe TS Guru Posts: 566   +105

    Sony has the right to protect their products. That being said :

    1. They aren't gonna make a dime off this kid and they are spending millions trying him. That is kinda *****ic.

    2. Most of the people pissed about this are whining and crying about hacking online games. I see people complaining about aimbots and the such. Just face it..you suck at first person shooters. Heres an idea..dont play with people who are hacking the game, play with people on your friends lists.

    3. Piracy is not driving up the price of your game, its plain and simple greed. Even if piracy did not exist, game companies would have other excuses to raise the price. You don't see the auto makers complaining about auto theft and raising their prices do you? People steal gasoline all the time but that has no bearing on oil prices. Get over it

    4. Sony should just hire this kid. He's obviously smarter than the people at Sony. They would spend a hellava lot less money employing him than trying to sue him just so they stroke their corporate peener.
     
     
  12. Lokalaskurar

    Lokalaskurar TS Enthusiast Posts: 616

    Please note that there is a difference between hackers and crackers. True hackers don't harm people whether it being physically, mentally or financially. I would agree with this guest, provided he/she changes hackers to crackers, as those are the real culprits.
     
  13. I'll never buy Sony again. Another example of a big business protecting its name for its own profit than the sake of a 'consumer'
     
  14. Dont worry, the money spends on putting this dude in jail, the more hackers are going to screw with sony, SWEET FREE GAMES, thx sony
     
  15. madboyv1

    madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 956   +49

    So I assume you hate ALL of Apple's software locked products then as well. Hope you don't own an ipod, or an ipad, or an iphone. But you probably do, which doesn't help your position, since you are supporting a company that feels the same way as Sony does about their product (just more discreet about handling things).
     
  16. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Posts: 952   +112

    wtf is with all these trolling guests? This isn't about hacking anymore, it's about losing our rights. If sony can walk all over us like this, what's stopping other people from doing it? what if this becomes the norm? Geohotz needs to win, I sent him money. God bless America, home of the corporation.
     
  17. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,286   +232

    Prime example of the typical ignorance in general where this story is concerned.

    Hacking a console that you PURCHASED to be able to get the most out of what you paid good money for is one thing. Hacking networks of government agencies is totally and completely different. Try to at least make relevant points when trolling.

    Oh, and hey, let's use your logic and go the other way. Why stop at throwing the book at PS3 unlockers? We should lock everyone who overclocks their PCs or mods them in any way. I mean, just because they paid for the hardware, that doesn't give them any rights to do what they want with their systems, right?
     
  18. Well, the reason there are so many of us anonymous "trolls" as one person puts it, is because this site was at the top of Google News for a while.

    I agree that Sony's tactics are deplorable, but I understand why they did it after finding their 2010 financial report. Gaming is pretty much the only thing holding their company together. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html . They are (overly)-aggressive in protecting the one thing keeping 167,000 employees working. They are scared that if they don't protect the gaming portion of their business that they will go under eventually. Corporations are not invincible monsters. They keep people in their houses, clothes, and provide dinners for many families, which in turn supports other areas of business. They employee people all over the world, not just Japan.

    Everything isn't as black and white.
     
  19. dedparrot

    dedparrot TS Rookie Posts: 67

    Major corporations have people on the payroll to drown out the opinion of other people on forums and other websites.

    This is probably one of these cases.
     
  20. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,504   +311

    Sony is spending loads on this case, surely if gaming is the only thing holding them together they should, I don't know, lower the price on their computers maybe? or spend the money getting Geo and actually hire him to improve security rather than sue the crap out of him? Seriously, Sony may be trying to protect the one thing that brings in profit, but they have gone about it in such a horrid and extremely ignorant way they deserve to go into financial crysis. As someone above me said, this is more about what rights we have with our products that we purchased with our hard earned cash than Sony trying to stop a possible flaw for piracy on one of their products. To be fair, your the most logical troll so far :)
     
  21. Seems to me most of U all here with your anti-SONY debacles are for the thief Geo...! Well, SONY will not stop until he goes down, along with his friends. It's a shame to see these comments supporting piracy yet you'all the same ones upset over PC games being pirated. Such hypocrisy!!
     
  22. Uh, I think his source is the article we are commenting on. "GeoHot has reportedly agreed not to oppose the subpoenas"
     
  23. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    Yeah, I didn't like that part. First he asks people for money, then he apparently sends them all up the river.

    I'm pretty sure that if he lifted a finger to oppose this overtly broad request, he'd have a good chance of defeating it, the IFF would probably get him a lawyer for that part for sure. Even if they lost, they'd have a good chance of an appeal. But if he chooses not to contest it, then the info will just be given over.

    I really don't care about the playstation key, but I do care about legal precedent in my IP address being pulled from a web site.

    I think GeoHot folded, and now he's just minimizing the damage to himself while Sony sets legal precedent.

    To everyone talking about costs, Sony doesn't want money, they want legal precedent. Legal precedent is worth far more than whatever money they get here.
     
  24. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Posts: 952   +112

    I really don't know what to say to the comment. No one here is supporting piracy. What sony is doing should be illegal, it might even be illegal. SONY doesn't give a damn about you, why should you care about them? They want to treat everyone who even viewed the key like a criminal. I hope sony goes under.
     
  25. TrekExpert

    TrekExpert TS Enthusiast Posts: 104

    Supporting GeoHot's work isn't anywhere close to piracy. His hack simply means that you can unlock your PS3 to do what ever you want with it. Whether it be to run a different operating system or run your own applications there are many legal uses for this hack. Of course there is also the ability to run pirated games but you can not charge some one for having the ability to do something. That would be like saying that Sony is going to sue my because my computer is capable of downloading illegal content. It just doesn't make sense so what Sony is doing is wrong.
     


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