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Looking for a new graphics card

By DanMan
Sep 9, 2012
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  1. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

  2. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

  3. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

  4. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

    Looks fine to me. it's a good step up from your current performance level.
    although if you can afford it, why not go for the 7850? it's much faster than the 560.
    here's the Sapphire HD7850, which is $189 after MIR.
    it would easily outperform the 560 in gaming. plus, it has a nice cooler so you can expect quieter, colder performance.
     
  5. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Hmmm yes, I do like this suggestion.. But as to my other questions, what kinds of problems could go wrong? and what should I be looking for as far as reliability?
     
  6. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    And whats the significant difference between a regular gtx560 and a gtx560 TI?
     
  7. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

    To answer your first question, nothing should go wrong. the PSU and GPU are compatible, and as long as you don't screw up the actual installation (which is difficult to mess up), you'll be fine.
    in terms of reliability, Antec is a great brand if you want reliability, and for the graphics cards, EVGA and Sapphire make great cards. The only thing that could go wrong is if you get a DOA (dead on arrival) card. even then, that only happens maybe 2% of the time.
    In terms of longevity and future-proofing, then the 7850 is the way to go, since it's a newer architecture than the 560.

    to answer your second question, there is a difference between the 560 and 560Ti, but it's not incredibly significant. I won't go into the technical details, but basically the Ti version is just more powerful than the non-Ti version, simple as that.
    even then, the 7850 is still faster than the 560Ti.
     
  8. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Yeah I'd really recommend the 7850 over the 560 as well, you also have twice the VRAM so will last you a lot longer. 1GB of VRAM is not really acceptable any more for games nowadays.
     
  9. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Alright, great! I will most likely order these by today or tommorow. ( the 7850 and Antec power supply). On a side note though; Will I be missing any features from NVidia that radeon doesnt have?
     
  10. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Main thing you'll be missing is PhysX, here's a list of games which use it. Be aware that it's quite taxing in terms of GPU performance so if you do like the PhysX effects then you should go for a 660Ti and above.
     
  11. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

    Well. that's a long story.
    in terms of features, it's apples and oranges. both AMD and Nvidia cards have fancy pants features which make stuff look shiny.
    Ok, that's a huge generalisation, here's a quick read which may give you a heads up.
     
     
  12. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

  13. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

  14. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Any more comments?
     
  15. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

    You'll be fine.
    just make sure you watch a TON of instructional videos so that there will be no margin for error.
    when you mount the PSU, make sure the fan is facing toward the inside of the case, so that it's not suffocated against the panel.
     
  16. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    alright, ill go ahead and order these parts and prep to install them. thanks for so much help, and I will get back on this thread when I have them installed and let you guys know if it worked or not. :)
     
  17. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

    I look forward to hearing of your success.
    remember, do your homework. make sure you know what you're doing. and most importantly, take it slow. removing and inserting the card will take some force, but if you do it incorrectly, it'll jam and may break (that happened to me when I was trying to do a GPU switch in less than a minute :p, the card ended up making up some worrying buzzing noises after I jammed it in without much care, so I had to get it RMA'd)
    also, make sure to discharge yourself of any static electricity before you even touch anything inside your case.
    discharge yourself every five minutes or so. probably best not to wear socks and work on carpet either.
    (to electrostatically discharge yourself, touch any large metal object, like your case or the power supply).
    once again, good luck!
     
  18. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Alright, just got and installed my cpu and gpu. initial installations went smoothly, and it runs well.. With one exception. Everytime I go ingame, in this case Borderlands 2, my card has a tendancy to run at really high temps. According to EVGA's PrecisionX.... around 90 degrees celsius.
    My card is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130664.
    My settings are all maxed at 1920x1080 resolution. Perhaps this is too much for my card to handle?
    Twice I had the instance where my pc couldn't take it and would blackscree in the middle of a game, and automatically turn off my monitor. Once this happened loud noises immediately followed from within my pc, at which I responded by shutting off and restarting my computer. Needless to say, this concerns me, and I wish to ask for someone's help.
     
  19. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Perhaps there is a restriction of airflow which I am not aware of? I have 3 fans in my tower. And my new pcu has TONS of cords, do these get in the way? I am very concerned with how my card is running, and I don't wish to further mess things up.
     
  20. Cobalt006

    Cobalt006 TS Maniac Posts: 1,852   +184

    I not really sure but you may need to run the monitor on its native settings for the resolution. Check all your connections. Update your video drivers. I am sure someone here will give you a little more advise on this.
     
  21. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    So I found out that using this precision tool from EVGA, I can increase fan speeds and keep the card running at 60-70 celsius while ingame. The problem then is that the fan is REALLY LOUD.. and is an obvious setback from what I expected from this card. Any ideas on how to improve performance and get the best from this card?
     
  22. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    First of all check your airflow and that the fans are all working, and try to tuck those PSU cords away somewhere (maybe in an unused DVD drive). To be honest I'm not surprised at those temps considering you're using a stock HP Pavilion case which are not designed for running any sort of gaming GPU. Download MSI Afterburner and set up a custom fan profile, one which doesn't crank the fan to the 100%. 60-70C is a good temp while in game but I'd say anything up to 80-85C is acceptable.
     
  23. DanMan

    DanMan TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 25

    Alright, thank you. So my problem is not within the card itself, but more or less my setup? I shouldn't have to return it?
     
  24. xcylent

    xcylent TS Booster Posts: 267   +17

    no no don't return it anything.
    to be honest, I think should've seen this coming.
    a little pre-build PC case is like a sauna for computers. It is highly advised you get a bigger, roomier case whenever you upgrade your computer with powerful components. As for your situation, it depends. can you afford to spend $50-60 on a case? (note this isn't 100% necessary but it would be
    a) more aesthetically pleasing
    b) better cooling/airflow = lower temps
    c) much better in the long run
     
  25. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    The card is fine.
    Try running it with the case side panel open, if your temps drop significantly then it's definitely the case that's causing the high temps.
     


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