Looking to upgrade my graphics card would like some advice :)

By Sydney88
Mar 19, 2006
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  1. Hey for the past year i have been playin a MMORPG called World of warcraft. But recently as i have been wanting to do more and more in the game i have been finding that my current Graphics card Geforce4mx 440 just isnt up to it.
    So i am looking for a new graphics card to boost the performance idealy I'd like to start again with a new pc but currently only really have enough money for new graphics card.

    Im a complete noob when it comes to computer specs so bare with me lol.
    Computer is an emachines 570.
    2Ghz Intel Celeron processor
    768mb ddr ram

    :( thats all i can find out by myself lol any help would be greatly appraciated
  2. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Can anyone please help??

    Have alos just found some more specs

    motherboard manufacturer: Trigem computers, inc

    CPU Properties
    CPU Type Intel Celeron 4A, 2000 MHz (5 x 400)
    CPU Alias Northwood-128
    CPU Stepping C1
    Original Clock 2000 MHz
    L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
    L1 Data Cache 8 KB
    L2 Cache 128 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)

    CPU Physical Info
    Package Type 478 Pin uPGA
    Package Size 3.50 cm x 3.50 cm
    Transistors 55 million
    Process Technology 6M, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, Low-K
    Die Size 131 mm2
    Core Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V
    I/O Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V
    Typical Power 38.7 - 81.9 W (depending on clock speed)
    Maximum Power 49 - 100 W (depending on clock speed)

    CPU Manufacturer
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

    CPU Utilization
    CPU #1 6 %


    Motherboard Properties
    Motherboard ID 31861.EM.0000.D.0209121254
    Motherboard Name Unknown

    Front Side Bus Properties
    Bus Type Intel NetBurst
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR)
    Effective Clock 400 MHz
    Bandwidth 3200 MB/s

    Memory Bus Properties
    Bus Type DDR SDRAM
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
    Effective Clock 267 MHz
    Bandwidth 2133 MB/s

    Chipset Bus Properties
    Bus Type Intel Hub Interface
    Bus Width 8-bit
    Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR)
    Effective Clock 267 MHz
    Bandwidth 267 MB/s


    Chipset Properties
    Motherboard Chipset Intel Brookdale-G i845G
    In-Order Queue Depth 12
    CAS Latency 2T
    RAS To CAS Delay 3T
    RAS Precharge 3T
    RAS Active Time 6T

    Integrated Graphics Controller
    Graphics Controller Type Intel Extreme Graphics
    Graphics Controller Status Disabled

    AC'97 Audio Controller
    Audio Controller Type Intel 82801DB(M) ICH4
    Codec Name Avance Logic ALC202(A)
    Codec ID 414C4740h

    Memory Slots
    DRAM Slot #1 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #2 512 MB (DDR SDRAM)

    AGP Properties
    AGP Version 2.00
    AGP Status Enabled
    AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
    Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x
    Current AGP Speed 4x
    Fast-Write Supported, Enabled
    Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled

    Chipset Manufacturer
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
    Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm


    Sorry if most of this is usless :p
  3. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    Well, great news actually. Your system has an AGP slot, which is a great upgrade path. I think with a few bucks spent, you'd notice a big difference. As I am sure you already know, you are still limited by an older CPU and Ram, but still, a graphics card update would help your gaming.

    The limiting factor will probably be your power supply. Can you open up your case, and take a look at the sticker attached to it? How many watts does it say, and also look at the chart. How many amps does it say for the +12v rail?

    If your power supply is in the 350w range and you have about $100 to spend, then you could get a 6600GT. If your power supply is too small, you could spend about $40 on a new PSU, and then depending on your budget also get a nice graphics card.
  4. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,382

    Hello! Welcome to TechSpot!

    These are the 2 most important.
    You are 4x agp & 2.0Ghz celeron 400fsb.
    There will be alot of differing opinions on which upgrade will net
    the biggest performance boost for your $$$'s.
    The 5 to consider are:

    1.CPU- a p4 upgrade would make minimal increase with agp 4x

    2.Video card-Curent max 4x agp

    3.MotherBoard-this upgrade could bump you to 8x agp

    4.consider full technology upgrade

    5.Better psu- min. 350w true power

    Just some thing to consider.
    G'Luck
  5. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Hey thank you for your replys.

    DonNagual i checked the watts and discovered that the output is 250W.
    I couldnt find any graph or anything about the amps on the +12v rail however.
  6. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

  7. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I'm sure i can spare the extra cash :). I am in England however so i will look around for an english site so dont have to import it over from America. Thank you for your help im sure i will be back shortly after iv broken my computer lol :p asking for your help. :)
  8. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

  9. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

  10. JMMD

    JMMD TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,177

    That PSU has a 24pin power cable. Your current board is probably 20pin. Some 24 pin cables have the 4 pins on a separate piece so you can connect it to a 20 pin mobo. The seasonic doesn't look like that would work.
  11. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    ok thank you for your help just saved me some wasted mony lol. I will take that into account next time.
     
  12. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

  13. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    That is a nice one, with 34 amps on the +12v rails, plus it is nice and quiet.
  14. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    cool thank you for your help. One other question Don earlier you mentioned a good card would be the 6600 GT? does this not require an AGPx8 port though? Where as mine only has AGPx4?? Or will it be ok?
  15. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    It will work perfectly fine on an AGP 4x port, no worries there at all.

    The performance difference between an 8x and a 4x is minimal. The 6600gt will be using up pretty much ALL of the bandwidth of a 4x port and not use anywhere near the full bandwidth available in an 8x port, so they perform about the same.
  16. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    OK thank you very much Don. You have been a GREAT help. I may be back in a few days asking about installation lol.
  17. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    The only thing I am worried about is whether or not eMachines has done anything funky with their power supply connections. I did some searching and it LOOKS like you can use any standard ATX power supply in there (the one you link to above for example).

    Can anyone confirm whether or not eMachines mobo use standard 20 pin connectors?
  18. Sydney88

    Sydney88 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    hmm interesting lol. Anyway i came back when i realised i dont actually have a clue what im doing lol :p. Typed in 6600 GT into some website got 22 results thrown at me lol:( Heres a link if u could point me in geneeral direction lol. Graphics cards 6600 GT
  19. kirock

    kirock Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,598

    You said you live in England, so the best thing to do is search under computers or PCs in England. Once you find a distributor (a website), then they usually list them under video cards directly, or components, then video cards.

    Like these:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/ EDIT: I drilled into this website:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Prod...lterMinPrice=&FilterMaxPrice=&FilterKeywords=
    http://www.misco.co.uk/promos/consumer/homepage.aspx
    This is from searching computers in advanced mode in google using domain .uk only. Cheers.

    PS. 6600GT's come in 128Mb and 256Mb DDR or DDR2 RAM, so there will be a price range. For your case a 6600GT 128Mb DDR will be just fine (AGP of course).
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