Low FPS with upgraded 15 MBP and monitor

By Kyle Merosi
Feb 25, 2013
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  1. Hi everyone,

    I'm having an issue with low FPS in games with an external monitor. I have a late 2011 MBP with 2.0 i7, 16GB ram, AMD Radeon HD 6490M, and boot camp x64 windows 7. I recently bought a 24" U2412m Dell monitor to hook up to the laptop. While playing Tera Online my FPS is right around 15 while playing full screen 1920x1200 with 60 hertz refresh.

    I feel that I should be getting much better FPS than this, does anyone have any ideas? Is my graphics card simply not capable? I've heard that one problem might be having different refresh rates on the two monitors? Though I'm not sure why this would affect the game running on only one monitor. I would like any help, as I would like to be able to take advantage of this monitor instead of wasting it's space.

    Thank you for helping
  2. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar TS Evangelist Posts: 6,473   +963

    Well, MACs are not for gaming (I play SC2 or Civ on my mac sometimes, but it is a better experience on a PC with DX11 and such). 1920x1200 is way too high for a AMD 6490M since macs are usually limited to about 256mb of VRAM with the lower end macs. What does your system info say about your graphics (in OSX). If anything, try updating the video driver, but it will be no use before you tell me how much memory is for the graphics
  3. Kyle Merosi

    Kyle Merosi Topic Starter

    Here is the full report:

    hipset Model:AMD Radeon HD 6490M
    PCIe Lane Width:x8
    VRAM (Total):256 MB
    Vendor:ATI (0x1002)
    Device ID:0x6760
    Revision ID:0x0000
    ROM Revision:113-C0170H-521
    gMux Version:1.9.23
    EFI Driver Version:01.00.521
    Color LCD:
    Display Type:LCD
    Resolution:1440 x 900
    Pixel Depth:32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
    DELL U2412M:
    Resolution:1920 x 1200
    Pixel Depth:32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
    Display Serial Number:YMYH131L178S
    Main Display:Yes
    Connection Type:DisplayPort
  4. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,920   +627

    What in-game settings are you playing on? Put textures to low.. and other stuff to low, then see what happens.
  5. Kyle Merosi

    Kyle Merosi Topic Starter

    In your guys' experience has performance been better on single player games as opposed to MMO's? I fired up Bastion and had a much better experience. Although I know Bastion is not graphic intensive, I was hoping that is a common trend in single player experiences.

    Edit: Also, would I have better luck running games on my native OSX said as opposed to the bootcamp windows 7?
  6. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,920   +627

    Online games generally have lower fps. This is due to a metric boatload of sprites being on the screen at the same time. E.g. in a 'village', you'll have 50 people on your screen, with pets, effects, etc. This doesn't happen in single-player.
  7. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,181   +411

    I will tell you Kyle that you cannot configure a MBP to have decent 3D gaming performance for almost any recent game. I've got a couple of MBPs and that is one of my biggest complaints - no matter how much money I throw at the thing if I travel and want to game I have to bring another device. The MBP just does not cut it.
  8. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar TS Evangelist Posts: 6,473   +963

    The 650M is pretty powerful but isnt worth 2500 bucks. I really hope the next MBP doesnt use integrated graphics from Intel since it is said to match 650M performance. Hopefully nVidia brings something nice to the table with the 750M.
    @OP, 256MB of VRAM isnt enough to run games at even 1440x900 (MBP default resolution) with even medium settings. You need to play on low if anything. Maybe updating your drivers in Bootcamp may help, I have never done that before and dont know if it works
  9. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,181   +411

    I don't have anything positive to add about the 650M but I can say that you don't exactly update your drivers in bootcamp - you just update the version of bootcamp and there aren't that many versions out there. Driver support isn't high on their list of priorities for Windows on Mac.
  10. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar TS Evangelist Posts: 6,473   +963

    Yeah sadly. I am happy to see that in OSX 10.8.3 they are focusing on graphics drivers, this may elude to Open GL 4.3 coming to the Mac in future versions.

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