Low on Free Space!

By Sake
Jul 19, 2006
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  1. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Alright! A major thanks to all of you who helped me!

    By the way, does anybody watch anime?
  2. N3051M

    N3051M Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,800

    Thats what we're here for :) Have fun!

    Yes, although thats a topic for the "Meeting Spot" forum.. :D
  3. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    LAST questions. While searching for internal hard drives, I came upon Ultra ATA/100 and Ultra ATA/133. What exactly is the difference between these?

    Also, why do hard drives cost more in a store? Some examples:

    Best Buy
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...CategoryId=pcmcat33200050001&id=1069302880231

    Circuit City
    http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Seag...35114/catOid/-12976/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

    CompUSA
    http://www.compusa.com/products/pro...00&product_code=335866&Pn=300GB_Hard_Drive#ts

    Lastly, I just want to be 100% sure, that http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148139 is compatible with my Dell Dimension 4550 and Windows XP, before I make this purchase. To be on the safe side, I don't need to do anything beforehand, right? Like updating BIOS and all that, until some problems occur after I get the HDD, right?

    I was also wondering why this 320GB drive is so cheap. I've browsed some drives with lower GB, but are about the same price, such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148061.
  4. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,487   +73

    ATA 100 and ATA 133 run almost the same speed they move almost the same amount of data. ATA moves 33% more. Now the SATA 150 moves about 20% more data. The 133 sometimes have larger cache from 8MB to 16MB also called PATA. If you have a MOBO that is ATA 100 then get ATA 100 HDDs. If it's a ATA 133 then get HDDs rated at that level. Really doesn't matter you can put in ATAT 133 in ATA 100.

    Bestbuy is expensive so it's not really the best buy after all. Do your homework. I really buy my drives at Office Stores like Stapes they get better deals on MAXTORs. Also note that Office Depot will match any stores prices too. Compusa has some sales when it does are also cheap.
  5. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,067   +13

    100 is slower than 133. The highest Ultra ATA (IDE) drives run at 133.
  6. N3051M

    N3051M Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,800

    The shops could be just selling Retail boxes of HDDs, instead of just the drive by itself. Think of it - a product just sold as is (with warranty of course) without any accessory is definatly going to be cheaper than one with a pretty box, suspended (foam) packaging and got gizmo's that you may or may not need...
  7. i_am_a_newbie

    i_am_a_newbie Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    I always figured large mass retailers sold everything at rip-off prices, your best bet for cheap computer parts(that aren't cheap in quality) would usually be a specialized store, newegg has a very good reputation(although they don't ship to canada :().

    That HDD is definitely going to be compatible with your motherboard. However, as it was said; it is OEM, so it doesn't come with any cables, however your dell MIGHT have some expansion cables, the IDE cable definitely, the 4 pin power connector you may have to buy a splitter for(they're about 5 bucks at a local comp shop).
  8. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

  9. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Thanks again for all the help and support, everybody! I was wondering, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144237 more worth it? Since it is ATA133, but it has 20GB less than the Seagate one. Is a ATA100 and ATA133 having that big a difference? The $5 difference is no big deal, but is ATA133 more valuable than 20GB?

    Also, should I get a service net replacement plan?
  10. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    Absolutely not. The interface is technically faster, but mechanically, the drive itself is not. Sadly, current hard drives (Even SATA) don't come close to saturating the throughput ATA-133 offers, and still shy of even ATA-100.

    It would be a little like a road with a 130mph speed limit, but your car only registers 60mph. Even if the speed limit were 100mph, it wouldn't really make a difference.

    And just to mention it, even though it is hardly worth considering, drives do occasionally 'burst' data. This is where ATA-133 might be useful, but the performance it offers for typical and even unusual use is negligable.

    If you get a seagate, they usually have a 5-year warranty. In this case, no. Most other drives have a 3-year warranty which I would consider plenty. If you buy a drive with a 1 year warranty, you may want to consider buying the extended service agreement... However, you might want to compare the extra money it costs against how much it would cost to get the same size or even bigger drive with a longer warranty from the manufacturer. Storage is very cheap these days and the difference of 50-100GB is often just 20 to 30 dollars.
  11. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Alright! I went ahead and bought the Seagate Barracuda, without a plan. I'll post here when it arrives on how things go. :stickout:

    Thanks for all the advice and support! Wish me luck! :angel:
  12. N3051M

    N3051M Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,800

    Dont worry about plans for seagate.. like Rick said, they already have 5 yrs Return To Base warranty.. and too tell you the truth its damn fast.. From me in Australia to international shipping to Seagate USA (to get replacement drive) then back here took about less than 2 weeks.. or maybe it was 1 i forget.. free shipping too.. :D
  13. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    2 weeks isn't that fast... but since it's international shipping, I guess you could say that. I'm guessing it'll take less than a week for shipping in the states. :blush:
     
  14. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Jinkies! I had a dream last night and God asked me: "If you install a program which requires Windows XP, do you install it on your new HDD (Doesn't have Windows XP) or old HDD (Has Windows XP), or does it not matter?"

    Thanks! :giddy:
  15. N3051M

    N3051M Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,800

    Well thats entirely up to you. If you prefer everything in one place, then keep them all with your OS drive.

    Although a technique some of us use is to partition our primary hdd, one side being windows the other for programs etc, so in an event of a reformat its slightly faster to get things running and keep some of settings without much loss etc. But the drawback of this is you have to clean up and maintain your hdd more constantly, to get rid off orphaned folders/files, and some programs do install themselves on the default c:/ drive..

    But seeing as you already have a working system, i would suggest strongly against it right now (partitioning the OS drive) unless you have the time and patience to reinstall everything.. Of course, if you do wish to partition your new drive, you can do, since there is still nothing there..

    Just make sure you keep all your data on the new one, so its safe incase of a major system problem..
  16. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Okay, so I guess it doesn't matter if the program needs Windows XP, I can still install it on my new hard drive, which doesn't have Windows XP, and it should still work.

    Thanks!
  17. N3051M

    N3051M Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,800

    Yeh, well basicaly think of it this way, XP is the "Big" program that runs all the "smaller" programs. Those smaller programs dont have to be in the one place, for example, you have your windows games (solitare, freecell etc) somewhere in the c:\windows folder, but your other programs are in the c:\program files folder. Yet theres still some more (probably just freestanding applets) on your desktop..

    So the programs and files can be at any place on your computer, whether different folder or drive etc, but as long as windows knows where it is and can get to it then it'll work..
  18. layitdown33

    layitdown33 Newcomer, in training

    Yea I got the same pc as you do. Last year I upgraded the memory by taking out my 256 and adding two 512 chips. I also went from the standard harddrive which I think it was 40 up to a 160 harddrive. I recently purchased a 300 GB harddrive off of Ebay too. which helps me a lot. I switch my burner to a Plextor 716A. But Im considering replacing that because I think I burned it out. I do heavy duty burning.
  19. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    Am I the only one in this forum who has heard of, and used, "Files and Settings Transfer Wizard" in XP?
  20. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Yay! It arrived. I don't have time to install it today, but I'll update when I do (most likely tomorrow morning).
  21. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    Yay! I installed the new hard drive and I've only encountered one problem so far. The new drive's "Total Size" is shown as 298GB, but I bought a 320GB hard drive.

    Also, I was wondering, is there any way I can save files to my new hard drive, but still have the files show up on my desktop? I'll almost always save new files to my desktop first, then sort them out later on. For example: I'll download a video from the internet to my desktop, I'll watch it, then I'll put it somewhere in my "Program Files" a few days later.

    Transferring files from one hard drive to another via cut + paste is sooo slow, lol.

    Will files I download to my new hard drive from now on run faster, or just open faster? For example: If I move my Mozilla Firefox folder to my new hard drive, will my browser run faster, or will it only open faster?

    Lastly. This isn't totally off-topic, but I thought it'd be stupid to just make a new thread for it. How come the names of some files that I download are blue and some are black?
  22. i_am_a_newbie

    i_am_a_newbie Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    That's normal. 320GB is 320,000,000,000 Bytes, which isn't how Windows reads size. It goes by bytes, so 1GB is technically 8^10, which is 1,073,741,824 bytes as opposed to how HDD companies rate by 1,000,000,000. You can see how it adds up to about 20GB.
    Not sure what you mean. You want them to physically be on the large drive, but show up on your desktop? Use shortcuts if so.
    Your new drive isn't faster than your old one, it might even be slower due to the large size. They're the same technology(I think) and the only reason it would run faster if at first it wasn't as cluttered as the other one. I suggest you don't put any 'program files' over, as they are in the registry and it would be a pain to get them to work properly. Simply use your new drive as a mass storage drive.
    What?
  23. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    To clarify: I mean is there any way to save files to my new hard drive, but still have the files show up on my desktop, without the use of shortcuts?

    Sometimes when I download something like an anime episode, the title will be something like "blah blah - 1." But the text shows up as blue, opposed to the black color of every other file.

    Wow, I'm starting to experience major lag on my computer now. Now whenever I'm downloading something and doing anything on my computer, it just lags really badly. I just tried to play a video while downloading at the same time and the sound was choppy... bleh. This has never happened before...
  24. i_am_a_newbie

    i_am_a_newbie Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    Without shortcuts they will only show up exactly where you put them. I don't know why you'd want them to 'show up on your desktop', sounds kinda odd to me.
    That is weird, I don't know[/quote]
    Has the video ever worked properly? What else are you doing? Which HDD is it streaming from?
  25. Sake

    Sake Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 89

    The new hard drive. Ah... it's so laggy. :/ Any solutions to this?
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