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Discussion in 'The Alternative OS' started by hynesy, Oct 21, 2007.

  1. zycon Newcomer, in training Posts: 18

    PS3 has internet? where have i been...
  2. Bigfellla Newcomer, in training Posts: 108


    where did you get the iso?
  3. hynesy TechSpot Maniac Posts: 444

    If I told you I would be putting techspot in quite a legal predicament not to mention myself getting banned on this forum. Although i can give you a hint. Google.
    cheers
    hynesy
  4. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    You can purchase the MacOSX Leopard operating system from the Apple website or you can get it at any Apple store. As hynesy just said it is not allowed to discuss means of downloading the ISO here.
  5. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    I completely agree with you but then it would hurt Mac's hardware sales. Just look at their computers. They offer a Macbook with 1GB DDR2-667 and for an upgrade to 4GB DDR2-667 they charge $850. Any sane person could upgrade it themselves for $80 but for some reason they want to charge a 10X price premium.

    I'd love to switch to a Mac OS but there's no way I will buy their hardware.
  6. hynesy TechSpot Maniac Posts: 444

    Yeah, mac hardware is costly, which is why I used a hacked mac, I know of somone that just bought a macbook with 1gb ram, then paided $120 Aussie dollars to upgrade himself, when its about 1400 aussie dollars from mac, its beyond criminal.
     
  7. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    Well, if you are someone like me that already has a high end PC why would I need to switch to a Mac? I've used Linux distros (FC8 and PCLOS) without a problem and enjoyed the experience.

    Macintosh is just really hurting their own company. Good thing they got smart and went with Intel but they need to take the extra step if they want to compete. I know they might take on issues like hardware support but it would be well worth it to get their OS into the PC world.
  8. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    There's nothing in it for Apple at all. They make the most margins on their hardware & are very good convincing people to buy it with the aesthetics & because the software "just works". They won't have any of that if they simply allow MacOSX to run on any PC.
  9. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    It doesn't really "just work" as a Mac can go bad just like a PC. Sure, there aren't the viruses and spyware that you have to worry about but there are crashes and hardware failures like a PC.

    Mac has what, 5% of the market? That's not enough to compete. Even AMD has more than that against Intel. Shamefully Linux has like 1.5%...
  10. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    That's what you don't get, they don't need/have-to compete. Apple as a company simply has to be profitable & it is doing very well, there isn't a single benefit in releasing MacOSX to be used on any PC.
  11. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    If they don't have to compete then there wouldn't be any Mac vs PC (Windows) commercials out there would there?

    The reason Apple is doing so well is mainly because of iTunes along with the iPod and iPhone. That is what is bringing the mass loads of profit to Apple, not their Mac brand of personal desktops and laptops.

    I see every reason to release Mac OS to the PC. I'm getting tired of the same old Windows and Linux is still (always) developmental software even with WINE. That's just my opinion though.
  12. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    If you're tired of it, you can purchase a Mac. On that system MacOSX will work much better than on a PC (even if Apple were to support such a system). The closed system in this context is perfectly logical & is a benefit to the overall quality of the system. You lose all of it if you allow MacOSX to run on any machine.
  13. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    No, I have a very fast PC with Windows on it now (see my "System specs"). Why would I go spend more money for the same computer?

    In the long run I really think that Apple will give in and do the smarter thing. They already took the step by going with Intel. May as well finish the leap...
  14. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    & I for one do not see them making that step unless someone quite clueless takes over the controls of the company. The OS works very well because it looks good (but so does Vista), because the software is complete & polished but most importantly because of the relatively compact & well known hardware ecosystem it is meant to run on.

    Take that away & you simply have a different OS than Windows & people don't change their habits just for something different, there has to be a benefit to the change.
  15. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    They already changed from PowerPC to Intel. People don't change their habits just for something different, eh? ;)
  16. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    You must've missed the part where I said that there has to be a benefit. Going from PowerPC to Intel has brought so many advantages from performance, thermals & part availability that I wouldn't know where to start.
  17. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/

    Seems to me like direct competition that Apple is trying to make here. If you are going to compete with Vista then it has to be on the same level. Is Leopard really faster than Vista? I don't know, not on the same hardware so I cannot really compare.
  18. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    I believe those ads are probably meant to attract new users rather than current Windows users. The previous "Switch" ads were there to entice users to migrate to MacOSX, I don't think that's the case here.

    What's encouraging people to migrate is the "ease of use" that's been lost when going from XP to Vista. Even with a good machine where Vista is fast enough, it doesn't change the fact that menus have been rewritten in non logical ways, settings are found in non intuitive areas & you simply need more clicks to do things that required less in XP.
  19. jonmcc33 Newcomer, in training Posts: 70

    Not sure what "easy of use" is lost going to Vista. I sure learned it rather quickly. Only slight differences but it honestly isn't as severe as someone going from Windows to Mac.

    Not sure how many "new users" there are out there for a computer. Windows has 93% of the market and being that they are attacking Vista directly it seems to me that they are trying to get people from Windows XP.

    I still like that ad for Mac's hourly backup thing. Unsure if Mac was aware of Shadow Copy in Vista. They also attack UAC but fail to point out that it protects against spyware/malware. Just funny sometimes.

    But those ads surely wouldn't get me to "switch" or buy into their expensive hardware. They need something a lot more.
  20. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    It took me a while to figure out how to simply share files from the Vista machine. I'm still looking for how a way to hide the widget sidebar until I put the mouse cursor on the left. I have quite a few more problems about simple things that should've been simple to do in Vista but aren't & I've been using Windows for a while now (maybe that's the problem).

    Well Time Machine "just works" (& is included on every Leopard install). Shadow copy is more complicated to get working for someone discovering computers & furthermore is only available on certain editions of Windows Vista (Home doesn't have it).

    ps. maybe we should stop steering this topic away from the original post.