Making my first gaming PC help

i always been a console guy, but now i wan to enter the Pc realm of gaming . i am asking help in making the medium to top range gaming machine.

if you have any site that enable me to buy customized pc, or the best combination in your opinion of a good gaming machine please tell, cause i have no clue

thanks for any help.

1. Post your budget and location.
2. State whether or not you'd need to buy other parts such as a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
3. Tell us whether or not you'd be willing and able to buy online.

Only then can we help you properly.

my location is the UK, i can buy online aswell. My budget hmmm around £600.
i dont need any mouse, monitor of keboard .

thanks

Try this list of parts:

• Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Socket 775 (3.0GHz) 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor - £118.99
• Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L - P45 + ICH10 - Socket 775 - PCI-E (x16) Atx Motherboard - £84.6
• Corsair XMS6400 4GB DDR2 (2x2GB) 800Mhz Non-ECC - £55.11
• HIS HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 TVO/Dual DVI, HDMI, PCI Express Graphics Card - Retail - £112.74
• Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 32Mb Cache Hard Disk Drive SATAII 300MB/s <8.9ms 7200rpm - OEM - £57.58
• Corsair 550W VX Series PSU - 120mm Fan, 5 Year Warranty - £57.42
• Antec Nine Hundred 900 - Gaming Case with 200mm Top Fan - No PSU - £69.87

Grand Total = £556.31. You can order the RAM and motherboard from Novatech in OEM boxes, which will help save some money. If you've saved enough, you can go with an HD 4870 instead of the HD 4850 for increased performance, although if your monitor supports all resolutions upto 1600x1200, the HD 4850 will be sufficient.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

purchasing problem

i am having problems finding the OEM hardware on novatech, for the ram and motherboard, i need some bargins

You need to order over the phone for OEM items I think. Not sure though.

Rage what you think of this?

Thermaltake ArmorLcs VE2000
Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Power Supply
ASUS Maximus Extreme X38 Motherboard (775/1600FSB/DDR3)
Intel Q9450 QuadCore CPU (2.66GHz)
Dual Liquid Cooling System (CPU/Chipset)
ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics (512DDR3)
Corsair DDR3 4Gb memory
DVD-Reader
DVD-Rewriter
+all the flashy stuff, fans, LEDs, hoses, radiators, ect.

all perefiral included:
Keyboard, Optical Mouse, WebCam, plus 7.1 CREATIVE surround sound system!
and 19" LCD Display HP
oh, and a Printer as well - HP 1317 all-in-one (scanner+printer)

this all for £500

what you think? any help is helpful

thanks

cancel that last post my friend bought to before me!

Did you build your PC yet though?

yea

i made that for my friend, its works ok but i want i faster processer for my self and ram but my budget under £400 lol

thanx for the help before Rage.

You're welcome.

Do you want any help picking out components for yourself?

basically i currently have Lenovo 3000 J200 Type 9691 Desktop/PCSystem Information:

Operating System
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Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack Service Pack 3
Build Number 2600
DirectX Version 9.0c (4.09.00.0904)

Windows Update
Automatic Updates Automatic download and install
Last checked 2008-12-05 09:32:57
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System Information
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Manufacturer LENOVO
Product 969162G
Serial Number LY0CB1X
Total Number of Logical CPUs 1
Total Physical Memory 1.00 GB
Total Number of Optical Drives 2
Total Number of Hard Drives 1
Total Number of Video Cards 1
Total Number of Memory Modules 1
Total Number of DIMM slots 4
System Name LENOVO-7D82A23E
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Login
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Name Stefan Gayle
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Motherboard
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System Board
Chipset Intel i945G/GS/P/PL
Southbridge Intel 82801GB/GR (ICH7/ICH7R)

Base Board
Manufacturer LENOVO
Product LENOVO

BIOS
Vendor LENOVO
Release Date 10/25/2007
BIOS Version String 2TKT53AUS
ROM Size 512.00 kB

SMBIOS
Version 2.5
Maximum Structure Size 187 bytes
Table Size 1.26 kB

Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (CPU:0)
Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
Cores 2
Threads 2
Current Speed 2.99 GHz
Features MMX, PSE36, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
L1 Trace Cache 2 x 12 Kuops
L1 Data Cache 2 x 16.00 kB
L2 Cache 2 x 2.00 MB
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Memory
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System Memory
Total Physical Memory 1.00 GB
Free Physical Memory 250.58 MB
Maximum Supported Memory 4.00 GB

1024 MB DDR2-SDRAM (PC2-5300 / 667 MHz)
Memory Size 1.00 GB
Memory Type DDR2-SDRAM (PC2-5300 / 667 MHz)
Memory Manufacturer Hyundai Electronics
Memory Manufacture Date Week 30, Year 2007
Memory Part Number HYMP512U64CP8-Y5
Memory Revision Code 4241
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Directories
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Windows Directory c:\windows
System Directory c:\windows\system32
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Local Disk
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Hitachi HDS721616PLA380
Model Number Hitachi HDS721616PLA380
Serial Number PVE341Z5SU4SSM
Firmware Revision P22OABBA
Total Capacity 149.05 GB
Buffer Size 7.20 MB
Temperature 43 C
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\disk.sys
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0, 7-1-2001

Preload - C:
Drive Letter C
Volume Name Preload
Volume Serial Number 5830-AD8D
File System NTFS
Volume Capacity 144.16 GB
Volume Free Space 20.29 GB
Volume Used Space 123.87 GB
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CD-ROM Drive
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ATAPI DVD C DH48C1S
Model Number ATAPI DVD C DH48C1S
Serial Number 2007030800277094
Firmware Revision LL31
Drive Letter D
Readable Media CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL
Writable Media CD-R, CD-RW
Write Strategy TAO, SAO, RAW, RAW-MS
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0, 7-1-2001

ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
Model Number ELBY CLONEDRIVE
Firmware Revision 1.2
Drive Letter E
Readable Media CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0, 7-1-2001
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Display
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DELL E173FP (Plug and Play Monitor)
Mode 1152 x 864 (32-bit) (60 Hz)
Manufacturer Dell Computer Corp.
Serial Number U494147H290L
Manufacture Date Week 29, Year 2004
Signal Type Analog
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Video Card
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Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer Intel Corporation
Video Card Chip Type Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Video Card Memory 128.00 MB
Video Card BIOS Intel Video BIOS
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igxpmp32.sys
Driver Version 6.14.10.4820, 4-16-2007
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Sound Card
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SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Manufacturer Analog Devices
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\adihdaud.sys
Driver Version 5.10.1.6300, 9-21-2007
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Network Card
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Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
MAC Address 00:1a:6b:4d:e0:42
IP Address 0.0.0.0
Current Speed 0 bps
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\rtenicxp.sys
Driver Version 5.658.814.2006, 10-19-2006

Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adapter
MAC Address 00:11:50:c5:d3:a0
IP Address 192.168.2.3
Gateway IP Address 192.168.2.1
Current Speed 54.00 Mbps
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usb8023.sys
Driver Version 4.1.20.2, 12-16-2004
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Printers
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Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Model Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Path Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Driver Path C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\mxdwdrv.dll
Driver Version 0.3.6000.0

Microsoft Office Document Image Writer Driver
Model Microsoft Office Document Image Writer Driver
Path Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
Driver Path C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\mdigraph.dll
Driver Version 0.3.8166.2

HP PSC 2350 series
Model HP PSC 2350 series
Path HP PSC 2350 series
Driver Path C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\hpz2ku10.dll
Driver Version 0.3.000
Default Printer true
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Keyboard
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USB NetVista Full Width Keyboard
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180, 7-1-2001

HID Keyboard Device
Manufacturer (Standard keyboards)
Driver Path c:\windows\system32\drivers\kbdhid.sys
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180, 7-1-2001
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Pointing Device
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USB Optical Mouse
Manufacturer Microsoft
Driver Provider Lenovo
Device Version 2.0.0
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys
Driver Version 5.3.2.0, 5-17-2006
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USB Controller
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Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Manufacturer Intel
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Manufacturer Intel
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Manufacturer Intel
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Manufacturer Intel
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Manufacturer Intel
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys
Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

we are basically dicussing if it is worth upgrade or to buy a new rig for gaming. lol

IMO, you can build a far more powerful computer with a video card for £400 or even less.

really , see rage lets have a discussion lol. when making a gaming machine what is the most important parts? is the processor? ram? or graphic card? etc....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CORE2QUAD-9-6...14&_trkparms=72:1301|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318

take a look at this Rage, if you can beat this in price and quality, i will get your's straight away!

Hehe, you're on. Check this out:

• Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L iG31 Socket 775 Onboard VGA 6 channel audio mATX Motherboard - £38.55
• Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz Socket 775 800FSB 2MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor - £62.08
• 4GB Corsair (2x2GB) TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-18 Memory Kit - £36.67
• Asus Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 CC 625MHz PCIE 2xDVI - £111.94
• Western Digital 500GB Caviar SE16 SATA II 300 7200rpm 16MB cache Hard Disk Drive - £40.83
• Antec Basiq Power 500W PSU - 20+4pin 2x SATA 1x PCI-E 5x Molex - £38.08
• Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Mid Tower Case - No PSU - £31.24

Grand Total = £359.39 including VAT but not shipping. Throw in any DVD drive of your choice and you've got a superb machine that will be far faster than the one you linked to, for only a little more dosh. Also, the parts in this one are far superior to the generic ones that are most likely used in that PC.

As for your question, the most important component in a gaming machine is the video card. Then comes the RAM and last, but not the least, the CPU.

oooooh

all this time i thought it was the cpu, that was the most important. thank you, i'll make my order's now lol

processor?

is the intel core quad worth getting over the one you have specified? making orders now

It is a better CPU by all means, but instead of getting it, I'd recommend the E8400 instead which can be had for the same price.

erm

Sorry for all the question Rage, so when it comes to picking processors its about clock speed?

Not only clock speeds, but also the L2 cache. The E8400 has 3MB of cache memory per core, compared to 1MB per core for the E5200 and 2MB per core for the Q6600. Games are very sensitive to increases in cache memory, so for gaming, the E8400 is easily the superior choice compared to the Q6600, with the increased frequency being an added bonus of sorts.

The E8400 is also a 45nm part, as is the E5200, while the Q6600 is 65nm. A smaller die means that the chip dissipates less heat, consumes less power and is easier to OC. The E8400 is a champion OCer that can be happily OC'd to 3.5GHz or so without changing the stock voltage or HSF. With proper cooling, it can reach and surpass 4GHz.

The Q6600 needs an aftermarket HSF just to reach 3GHz and I have yet to see one reach 4GHz on air cooling, mainly due to it being a 65nm part and due to it having two extra cores compared to the E8400, which add to the heat output.

So you see, a lot needs to be taken into account when considering a CPU for any build.