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Making my first gaming PC help

By nubstef
Oct 25, 2008
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  1. i always been a console guy, but now i wan to enter the Pc realm of gaming :). i am asking help in making the medium to top range gaming machine.

    if you have any site that enable me to buy customized pc, or the best combination in your opinion of a good gaming machine please tell, cause i have no clue :p

    thanks for any help.
  2. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    1. Post your budget and location.
    2. State whether or not you'd need to buy other parts such as a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
    3. Tell us whether or not you'd be willing and able to buy online.

    Only then can we help you properly.
  3. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    my location is the UK, i can buy online aswell. My budget hmmm around £600.
    i dont need any mouse, monitor of keboard :).

    thanks
  4. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Try this list of parts:

    Grand Total = £556.31. You can order the RAM and motherboard from Novatech in OEM boxes, which will help save some money. If you've saved enough, you can go with an HD 4870 instead of the HD 4850 for increased performance, although if your monitor supports all resolutions upto 1600x1200, the HD 4850 will be sufficient.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes. :)
  5. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    purchasing problem :p

    i am having problems finding the OEM hardware on novatech, for the ram and motherboard, i need some bargins :)
  6. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    You need to order over the phone for OEM items I think. Not sure though.
  7. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Rage what you think of this? :)

    Thermaltake ArmorLcs VE2000
    Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Power Supply
    ASUS Maximus Extreme X38 Motherboard (775/1600FSB/DDR3)
    Intel Q9450 QuadCore CPU (2.66GHz)
    Dual Liquid Cooling System (CPU/Chipset)
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics (512DDR3)
    Corsair DDR3 4Gb memory
    DVD-Reader
    DVD-Rewriter
    +all the flashy stuff, fans, LEDs, hoses, radiators, ect.

    all perefiral included:
    Keyboard, Optical Mouse, WebCam, plus 7.1 CREATIVE surround sound system!
    and 19" LCD Display HP
    oh, and a Printer as well - HP 1317 all-in-one (scanner+printer)

    this all for £500

    what you think? any help is helpful :p

    thanks
  8. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    :(

    cancel that last post my friend bought to before me!
  9. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Did you build your PC yet though?
  10. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    yea

    i made that for my friend, its works ok but i want i faster processer for my self and ram but my budget under £400 lol

    thanx for the help before Rage.
  11. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    You're welcome.

    Do you want any help picking out components for yourself? :)
     
  12. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    basically i currently have Lenovo 3000 J200 Type 9691 Desktop/PCSystem Information:

    Operating System
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
    Service Pack Service Pack 3
    Build Number 2600
    DirectX Version 9.0c (4.09.00.0904)

    Windows Update
    Automatic Updates Automatic download and install
    Last checked 2008-12-05 09:32:57
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    System Information
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Manufacturer LENOVO
    Product 969162G
    Serial Number LY0CB1X
    Total Number of Logical CPUs 1
    Total Physical Memory 1.00 GB
    Total Number of Optical Drives 2
    Total Number of Hard Drives 1
    Total Number of Video Cards 1
    Total Number of Memory Modules 1
    Total Number of DIMM slots 4
    System Name LENOVO-7D82A23E
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Login
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Name Stefan Gayle
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Motherboard
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    System Board
    Chipset Intel i945G/GS/P/PL
    Southbridge Intel 82801GB/GR (ICH7/ICH7R)

    Base Board
    Manufacturer LENOVO
    Product LENOVO

    BIOS
    Vendor LENOVO
    Release Date 10/25/2007
    BIOS Version String 2TKT53AUS
    ROM Size 512.00 kB

    SMBIOS
    Version 2.5
    Maximum Structure Size 187 bytes
    Table Size 1.26 kB

    Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (CPU:0)
    Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Current Speed 2.99 GHz
    Features MMX, PSE36, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
    L1 Trace Cache 2 x 12 Kuops
    L1 Data Cache 2 x 16.00 kB
    L2 Cache 2 x 2.00 MB
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Memory
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    System Memory
    Total Physical Memory 1.00 GB
    Free Physical Memory 250.58 MB
    Maximum Supported Memory 4.00 GB

    1024 MB DDR2-SDRAM (PC2-5300 / 667 MHz)
    Memory Size 1.00 GB
    Memory Type DDR2-SDRAM (PC2-5300 / 667 MHz)
    Memory Manufacturer Hyundai Electronics
    Memory Manufacture Date Week 30, Year 2007
    Memory Part Number HYMP512U64CP8-Y5
    Memory Revision Code 4241
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Directories
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Windows Directory c:\windows
    System Directory c:\windows\system32
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Local Disk
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hitachi HDS721616PLA380
    Model Number Hitachi HDS721616PLA380
    Serial Number PVE341Z5SU4SSM
    Firmware Revision P22OABBA
    Total Capacity 149.05 GB
    Buffer Size 7.20 MB
    Temperature 43 C
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\disk.sys
    Driver Version 5.1.2535.0, 7-1-2001

    Preload - C:
    Drive Letter C
    Volume Name Preload
    Volume Serial Number 5830-AD8D
    File System NTFS
    Volume Capacity 144.16 GB
    Volume Free Space 20.29 GB
    Volume Used Space 123.87 GB
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CD-ROM Drive
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ATAPI DVD C DH48C1S
    Model Number ATAPI DVD C DH48C1S
    Serial Number 2007030800277094
    Firmware Revision LL31
    Drive Letter D
    Readable Media CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL
    Writable Media CD-R, CD-RW
    Write Strategy TAO, SAO, RAW, RAW-MS
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys
    Driver Version 5.1.2535.0, 7-1-2001

    ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
    Model Number ELBY CLONEDRIVE
    Firmware Revision 1.2
    Drive Letter E
    Readable Media CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys
    Driver Version 5.1.2535.0, 7-1-2001
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Display
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DELL E173FP (Plug and Play Monitor)
    Mode 1152 x 864 (32-bit) (60 Hz)
    Manufacturer Dell Computer Corp.
    Serial Number U494147H290L
    Manufacture Date Week 29, Year 2004
    Signal Type Analog
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Video Card
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
    Manufacturer Intel Corporation
    Video Card Chip Type Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
    Video Card Memory 128.00 MB
    Video Card BIOS Intel Video BIOS
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igxpmp32.sys
    Driver Version 6.14.10.4820, 4-16-2007
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Sound Card
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
    Manufacturer Analog Devices
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\adihdaud.sys
    Driver Version 5.10.1.6300, 9-21-2007
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Network Card
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
    MAC Address 00:1a:6b:4d:e0:42
    IP Address 0.0.0.0
    Current Speed 0 bps
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\rtenicxp.sys
    Driver Version 5.658.814.2006, 10-19-2006

    Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adapter
    MAC Address 00:11:50:c5:d3:a0
    IP Address 192.168.2.3
    Gateway IP Address 192.168.2.1
    Current Speed 54.00 Mbps
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usb8023.sys
    Driver Version 4.1.20.2, 12-16-2004
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Printers
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Microsoft XPS Document Writer
    Model Microsoft XPS Document Writer
    Path Microsoft XPS Document Writer
    Driver Path C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\mxdwdrv.dll
    Driver Version 0.3.6000.0

    Microsoft Office Document Image Writer Driver
    Model Microsoft Office Document Image Writer Driver
    Path Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
    Driver Path C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\mdigraph.dll
    Driver Version 0.3.8166.2

    HP PSC 2350 series
    Model HP PSC 2350 series
    Path HP PSC 2350 series
    Driver Path C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\hpz2ku10.dll
    Driver Version 0.3.000
    Default Printer true
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Keyboard
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    USB NetVista Full Width Keyboard
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys
    Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180, 7-1-2001

    HID Keyboard Device
    Manufacturer (Standard keyboards)
    Driver Path c:\windows\system32\drivers\kbdhid.sys
    Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180, 7-1-2001
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Pointing Device
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    USB Optical Mouse
    Manufacturer Microsoft
    Driver Provider Lenovo
    Device Version 2.0.0
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys
    Driver Version 5.3.2.0, 5-17-2006
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    USB Controller
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
    Manufacturer Intel
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
    Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

    Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
    Manufacturer Intel
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
    Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

    Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
    Manufacturer Intel
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
    Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

    Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
    Manufacturer Intel
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys
    Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

    Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
    Manufacturer Intel
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys
    Driver Version 8.2.0.1008, 9-13-2006

    we are basically dicussing if it is worth upgrade or to buy a new rig for gaming. lol
  13. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    IMO, you can build a far more powerful computer with a video card for £400 or even less.
  14. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

  15. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Hehe, you're on. Check this out:
    Grand Total = £359.39 including VAT but not shipping. Throw in any DVD drive of your choice and you've got a superb machine that will be far faster than the one you linked to, for only a little more dosh. Also, the parts in this one are far superior to the generic ones that are most likely used in that PC.

    As for your question, the most important component in a gaming machine is the video card. Then comes the RAM and last, but not the least, the CPU.
  16. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    oooooh

    all this time i thought it was the cpu, that was the most important. thank you, i'll make my order's now lol
  17. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    processor?

    is the intel core quad worth getting over the one you have specified? making orders now
  18. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    It is a better CPU by all means, but instead of getting it, I'd recommend the E8400 instead which can be had for the same price.
  19. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    erm

    Sorry for all the question Rage, so when it comes to picking processors its about clock speed?
  20. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Not only clock speeds, but also the L2 cache. The E8400 has 3MB of cache memory per core, compared to 1MB per core for the E5200 and 2MB per core for the Q6600. Games are very sensitive to increases in cache memory, so for gaming, the E8400 is easily the superior choice compared to the Q6600, with the increased frequency being an added bonus of sorts.

    The E8400 is also a 45nm part, as is the E5200, while the Q6600 is 65nm. A smaller die means that the chip dissipates less heat, consumes less power and is easier to OC. The E8400 is a champion OCer that can be happily OC'd to 3.5GHz or so without changing the stock voltage or HSF. With proper cooling, it can reach and surpass 4GHz.

    The Q6600 needs an aftermarket HSF just to reach 3GHz and I have yet to see one reach 4GHz on air cooling, mainly due to it being a 65nm part and due to it having two extra cores compared to the E8400, which add to the heat output.

    So you see, a lot needs to be taken into account when considering a CPU for any build.
  21. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L, Intel G31 Express / ICH7 Chipset, 8 x USB,
    4 x SATA, Socket 775, mATX
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 3.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache,
    Socket 775, Retail Box (Inc. a cooler)

    RAM 4
    GB Corsair XMS2 (2 x 2GB dual channel kit) DDR2 800MHz (PC2-6400),
    CL5, CAS 5-5-5-18, Lifetime Warranty

    HDD

    500GB Western Digital (WD5000AAKS), 7200rpm, 16MB Cache, SATAII

    DVD±RW

    LG GH22NS30 22x DVD±RW / RAM / Dual Layer, Black, SATA

    Video card

    ASUS ATI Radeon HD4850, 512MB DDR3, Dual DVI, HDTV-Out, PCI-E
    Sound card

    On board Realtek ALC662 codec 6-Channel High Definition Audio
    LAN

    On board Gigabit Ethernet Controller 10/100/1000 Mbps

    CASE

    CoolerMaster Elite 330 Black, ATX Middle Tower

    Power Supply

    Antec Basiq Power 500W ATX (20+4pin, 2xSATA, 1xPCI-E, 5xMolex)

    all for £510.62

    it will be built for me, i really dont have time to make this 1 myself uni and everything is mad at the mo. ok Rage? thanks for the help, i been using some of your advice to impress my friends lol
  22. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Everything looks great to me. Good luck!
  23. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    video card

    what do you think of the Nvidia GeForce 7950 GX2 Extreme Video card with 1 GB DDR 3 RAM and DUAL DVI is it worth it for £250 or is better to get another card?
  24. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Not worth it. Rubbish drivers and outdated architecture.
  25. nubstef

    nubstef TS Rookie Topic Starter

    oh no

    i bought it what im i going rage( Blames rage) lol
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