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Man fined $7,000 for sharing 'WordPress for Dummies' via BitTorrent

By Matthew
Jul 3, 2012
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  1. Robert Carpenter of Poughkeepsie, New York has been ordered to pay $7,000 in damages for sharing a copy of "WordPress All-in-One For Dummies" on BitTorrent. Carpenter was part of a mass filing by publisher John Wiley & Sons last October…

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  2. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 1,946   +381

    really? thousands of people sharing things like the avengers, skyrim, call of duty, and other popular media, and this guy gets taken down.

    Thats sad. I mean it IS piracy, just not nearly as big a deal as anything else.
     
  3. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,078   +76

    You mean it isn't as big of a deal because the media doesn't report about it as much. I'm sure it is a big deal to the publisher and the author, who spent weeks/months working on it.

    I fail to see how one form of media is a bigger deal than the other.
     
  4. Seventh Reign

    Seventh Reign TS Rookie Posts: 92   +34

    " the amount of revenue that is lost is enormous,"

    I would like to personally nominate that as 'The most over rated sentence of 2012.'

    The amount of revenue lost is barely a fraction of a percent of what they still made. I understand every penny counts, but sometimes, you've made enough money.
     
  5. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,078   +76

    That is complete and utter BS.
     
  6. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    @Seventh
    If it was your intelectual property that other ppl were stealing you would be on the warpath as well. Its all well and good that you can sit there and make a comment like "Youve made enough money". However you need to expand your view a bit and understand that they have a right to be upset that others are profiting from their property.
     
  7. Ranger1st

    Ranger1st TS Enthusiast Posts: 268   +77

    Less about the Piracy and more about the media type, like most others, not keeping up with the modern world.. in an ironic sort of way..
     
  8. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    Digital piracy is a battle that will only be won by changing public opinion, not via laws. So the perception of both the "criminal" and the "victim" have to be considered.

    If you just take the hard line approach that its a crime, and no exceptions can be made, then basically the media companies will lose and things will continue. When ebooks cost as much or more than physical books, despite costing nothing to make (with all the editing being done for print anyway), and nothing to ship, the media company is not seen as a victim. While I would not call it Robin Hood cause you're talking about ebooks and not starving peasants, but nonetheless, public opinion does not feel sorry for the media companies.
     
  9. Carmaine

    Carmaine TS Rookie

    I love how people bash on others about how piracy is bad, yet they also do the same thing.

    Let's face it. All of us is guilty of at least one crime of pirating some sort of digital product.
     
  10. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,274   +152

  11. Coodu

    Coodu TS Enthusiast Posts: 179

    Oh man, that blew my mind, nice one haha
     
     
  12. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 981   +31

    I think it's a fine fine. It's not like the millions that the likes of the RIAA want. It's a sum that is large enough to serve as a deterrent but one that people can actually pay.
     
  13. I want to be a pirate
    A pirates life for me
    All my friends are pirates
    And sail the b. b. sea
    Ive got a jolly roger
    Its black and white and vast
    Get out of your skull and crossbones
    And I'll run it up your mast
     
  14. We pirate, know we are stealing, and try to morally justify it by saying things like "Oh they have made enough money" and "It's not really stealing because we are only downloading it because it is free; no lost revenue because we wouldn't have paid for it". The fact is that it is theft, but unfortunately we aren't responsible enough to police ourselves. Good on the publisher, too bad most people are smart enough to evade detection.
     
  15. 3DCGMODELER

    3DCGMODELER TS Enthusiast Posts: 307   +18

  16. one lesson we can get from here:

    "don't get caught when pirating"
     
  17. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    @Carm

    I beg to differ good sir. I have not and never will illegally download ANY media. I pay for all my songs on Itunes. I dont use a computer unless Im at work. I have even broken disks my freinds have given me of burned movies. Its not that hard to NOT steal. You just have to have a moral compass. Maybe in the household you grew up in , theft may have been the norm. My parents taught me right from wrong. In my household if one of us children were to steal something, the sheer embarasment involved in the whole situation would be enough to send us screaming from the room. Nothing like all the relatives giving you the business because you were stupid enough to steal. Then again maybe that is the problem in general. Ppl have even less respect for themselves now then they did in previous years.
     
  18. Carmaine

    Carmaine TS Rookie




    LOL. U mad bro?

    Check this out though Tygerstrike. I can do this too. :)

    I also have never illegally downloaded ANY media. I pay for all my sons on itunes, and pay for all my games on steam. My house was also built on having good morals just like you so I always behaved in front of mommy and daddy even to this day. And if anyone is even caught stealing rain from the sky, we would get dragged to sector 7G and spanked all night. This made me a firm believer in the consequence taken over doing something as petty as stealing water. Now I make over 200 thousand a year as a logistics analyst so there's no need for me to steal anything since I have the financial privilege of being able to buy them.

    Here's my point. With all that said, and with you probably being a state, country or continent away from me; would you believe anything I just said?
     
  19. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    Not mad just pointing out that your earlier generalized post doesnt represent "everyone". There are still some of us out there who have respect enough for others that we just wont steal. And yes I would believe that all you posted could be correct.
     
  20. I'm an author and my books are always being stolen like this, so I cheered aloud when I read that they'd caught one of the thieves. May they catch a great many more!

    Why do people who don't steal other things think music and books are fair game? Don't they realise some people make their living by producing them.

    Anna Jacobs, still smiling at the news
     
  21. PS to my last post. They're not pirates. That sounds far too glamorous. They're thieves.
     
  22. wow!
    Nobody saw the irony?
    Wordpress is actually opensource running on opensource Linux and yet a man was fined to death because he freely circulated a book about it??

    Anyway, the action of theft presupposes that someone is deprived of something.
    I steal a car means that somebody loses his/her car.
    How the publishers of this book were stolen then?
    Actually it was free advertisement!
     
  23. Tygerstrike said:
    @Carm
    I beg to differ good sir. I have not and never will illegally download ANY media. I pay for all my songs on Itunes. I dont use a computer unless Im at work. I have even broken disks my freinds have given me of burned movies. Its not that hard to NOT steal. You just have to have a moral compass. Maybe in the household you grew up in , theft may have been the norm. My parents taught me right from wrong. In my household if one of us children were to steal something, the sheer embarasment involved in the whole situation would be enough to send us screaming from the room. Nothing like all the relatives giving you the business because you were stupid enough to steal. Then again maybe that is the problem in general. Ppl have even less respect for themselves now then they did in previous years.

    Hi Tygerstrike,

    You say you dont steal right? But you say you only use computer at work!, so in my book you are stealing resources from your job by taking time to read the web and replying to this article. Unless the company you work for gave you full permission to surf the web for personal stuff and they are ok with you wasting your time surfing the web and reading articles during work time then you are ok, but I doubt it.
     
  24. TJGeezer

    TJGeezer TS Enthusiast Posts: 385   +10

    Right. Because too much is never enough, right? Don't be fooled by such blather as "let the punishment fit the crime," especially if a ridiculously high judgment can make even more money for lawyers, I mean for the noble publishers of works targeted for self-proclaimed dummies.
     
  25. TJGeezer

    TJGeezer TS Enthusiast Posts: 385   +10

    Sorry, I meant to quote as a reply to:

    "Wendig0, TechSpot Paladin, said:

    'I understand every penny counts, but sometimes, you've made enough money.'

    That is complete and utter BS."
     


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