Mccain, Obama who do you think will win and why

I won't argue that electric power is probably, (or could be made to be greener) than the internal combustion egine. I would argue that an electric car that goes 55 MPH will never supplant a Dodge Ram Crew Cab in the American psyche.

If you think about the mechanism here, the power plant converts heat and mechanical rotation to electricity by means of an alternator. Several really big, big, alternators. If it didn't, we'd have DC power generation, and face it, even Tesla couldn't get that to work.

The numbers look great at the plant itself, but here you probably deal with a bit of transmission line loss which could level the percentage playing field.

Now, in the Northeast US, on a hot summer day, power demand records are shattered every year. And every year, the power companies blow their collective horn about how they managed to supply the needed power without a blackout. So, it does beg the question, do you think we have the infrastructure to plug 50 million electric automobiles into the grid at the same time?

As a matter of trivia, combustion engines produce their maximum power at or near their redline, but electric motors produce their maximum power when they're stalled. I think the ratio is somewhere between 10 or 20 to one, but I was too lazy to Google it. Plus I'm using IE at the moment, and if I did, I'd pick up another three dozen cookies.

I see you've been brainwashed into a hypocritical state also. Sad.

Guilt by association is RIDICULOUS. Look at the list of 'questionable' people that McCain has been involved with.. let's start with the felons...

• Raffaello Folleri - Felon
• Jim Hensley - Felon
• Rick Renzi - Soon to be felon
• Charlie Keating - Felon

Now lets move on to his other 'bad' ties...

• Freddy Mac lobbyist (can't remember the name)
• Richard Quinn - White supremacy advocate
• Charles Black - A lobbyist for a few questionable political figures, including dictators

.. And there's plenty more... in fact, I can't remember them all! Even Palin has a pretty dingy history. I won't even mention those.

The point is they are both politicians, they both have tons of connections and some of those connections aren't too pretty. And the fact you would actually believe that one is has fewer bad ties than the other... well.. LOL. It makes me so sorry that people vote based on on this campaign FUD.

I hope you have other, more valid reasons.

We need many more power plants and prisons, but "not in my back yard"! Or so the story goes. I say let the environmentalists shut up and car pool the rest of us to work. Then we'd be able to get something done. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for protecting the planet, I'm just really fed up with the circular arguments coming from that set. Constantly trying to null cause and effect usually results in no action being taken. Well, other than sending the rest of the treasury to Saudi Arabia.

If you think about it , whenever you start an electric motor, you are at a stalled condition. So the answer, or rather the question here is, how stalled are you? Obviously, you can't set the system to require more current than it is designed to dissapate. Were you to install telemetry in your RC car, you'd see that a current spike would occur at startup, then gradually decline until you reached cruise. If however, you point the car at a wall and input full throttle, then yes, you'd have a fire on your hands

It's all about Associations......

Other than using every trick in the book, to claim racism, (mostly at the beginning and in the campaign in general), Obama's ads have been cleaner than McCain's. Especially when compared to McCain's latest round of attack ads.

What always interests me, is why someone who is perhaps only half black, does, or must always present themselves as black. I suppose there are many reasons, to numerous to mention.

Which brings me to the stroke of genius surrounding Sen Obama's latest round of family oriented ads. Obama campaigns as a "black man", yet when he shows his "family album" everybody in it is white! They tend to lead one to the conclusion that while he's black, he has a white, blue collar set of family values. This is more than likely true but, it also could be interpreted as pandering, and so presents us with a conundrum. I only obviate it to illustrate my earlier conclusion of the overall hypocracy that, "race is not an issue" in this campaign. Race is an issue, but it has more or less successfully been converted to a subliminal one.

McCain still reminds me of **** Cheney. Also, I don't understand how sitting in a bamboo cage had any influence on the outcome of the Viet Nam war whatsoever, or why we should elect him president. When the issue arises, it always sounds to me like a plea for compensation.

I still think the sad state of affairs is that no one is ever voted for in American politics, only against. So, maybe it would have been more accurate to title this thread, "who are you voting against..[ ].... and why"!

Obama is considered Black, even though he is half Black, due to reminisces of slavery in the United States of America. Historically, the Whites in America considered any person with any percentage of Black heritage to be Black. Yes, even if the person was 1% black and 99% white, that person would be considered Black.

Many people with mixed Black/White heritage were harassed and discriminated even more because some Whites were angry at Black/White couples. They did not approve of Black and White people having any relationships whatsoever. They grew even more infuriated if there was a black/white child. Interracial relationships were even an issue as recent as the early 1990s in America.

No disrespect to McCain, but I believe Obama will win the election. McCain's negative ads are not working this year. McCain is highly unpopular in his own party. He picked Palin because she was very popular in her own party. However, it soon became apparent that Palin as VP scares some people, even a few prominent Conservatives. I do not consider Palin a bad person, but I have little faith in her decision-making abilities and competence. Palin is good as a spokeswoman and is witty, but beyond that, I am deeply troubled she could not name 1 newspaper or magazine. An eight year old could name at least one!

Obama will win by due to McCain making mistakes.

To Work Toward World Peace, and Uphold the Ideals of The Miss America Pagent

There used to be talent search program, (back in the day), where one of the categories was, "spokesmodel". I wish I could remember more of the particulars, but it seems funny enough when you apply it to Ms. Palin.

If you haven't seen them, Tina Fey's impressions of Palin on SNL are not to be missed.

As I have told CaptainCranky before, "I have no affinity with either party". My talking point
is directed towards Obama as he has been less than transparent,as a matter of fact we know nothing of substance about him. All I have to go on is what has been mentioned.

It is the 1970's all over again: the press demoralizing the general public with nonstop negative reporting on a war they do not like and the economy that they want to bring to its knees; oil prices going through the roof, a financial scandal/crisis, unemployment on the upswing, Iran rattling its sabers in the Middle East, and a recession. Enter an unknown, and mostly clueless, liberal Democrat that everyone voted for because they wanted "change". Carter had a big smile and a reputation as a man of great intellect and moral character who would be what Washington DC needed as a wake up call.. Sound familiar? Ultimate result: have you heard the terms:; "stagflation" and "economic malaise"? They were coined during those miserable four years in which Carter bungled everything from economic policies to allowing Iran to humiliate us while they held our hostages until the end of his presidency. Pity that we may have to go through this again due to short memories.

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I wasnt alive then, 1970's politics were only mentioned briefly in the form of a gas shortage and inflation. So I cant really comment on what you say but I am curious on why you think Mccain is the better of the two canidates.

What does he bring to the table that is different and better then Obama

( I know you did not specifically mention him but it, I assume that is who you plan to vote for).

CaptainCranky and SNGX1275

What about using wind energy to replace the 22% of energy being produced by natural gas and building natural gas cars(the plan was dreamed up by a guy named Pickens). It almost seems viable.

I know we cant go to all renewable energies(mainly because Oil and coal companies would not stand for it they like the fact that they can charge use as much as they want and we cant do a thing about it)

matt1522: As you might imagine, I do have a candidate in mind. However, it would take me two-three full pages of text to go through my reasoning (based upon 40 years of observing politics in this country...I started following politics seriously in the 1968 elections, was a political science major in college, etc.) and I am certain that neither you nor I nor anyone else bothering to read this thread is interested in seeing such a diatribe at this time.

Ok I was just curious two-three pages would be a bit much for a thread.

Ok, this has gotten over my head, so let me just say this:

My dad loved the 70's oil crysis. Why? All those gas guzzling hot rods (Mopars, for him) got extremely cheap, so he bought everyone he came across for less than 200, and that was a LOT in Orlando.

Funny thing is, our 4500 lb. 1968 Plymouth VIP (Fury, every package available) gets about 26MPG from what we've calculated.... With a 383 big block, 4 bbl not 2.

Well......

Did you ever sit in a gas line?

OK, the trick here is, the front two barrels of a four barrel carb, are generally smaller than if the carburetor were a only two barrel. Since the throttle is about 2/3rds open before the back barrels kick in, I'd say "mystery solved". And no, if you drive around blasting into the back two barrels, you won't get 26 mpg

First of all Jimmy Carter was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. IMHO all that tells you is that he was/is the king of fairies. I sincerely doubt that Barack Obama has the same emotional make up or background as Jimmy Carter. In fact, Jimmy Carter came from a plantation and Obama is from Chicago. You're dismissing all liberal democrats using Mr Carter as a yardstick, when in fact he was/is an a** hole unto himself . Mr Carter was the worst president I've ever seen until George Bush, and nobody could mistake him for a liberal. In fact, if you mistake him for anything other than a high functioning *****, you simply haven't been paying attention for the past eight years.

And when you talk of short memories, how could a culture than survived oil embargos, and gas lines wind up with the bigger the better SUV as the principle method of transportation?

Jack Kennedy and Bill Clinton could reasonably be called "liberal democrats", an I'd take either one over Obama, McCain, Bush, and last but not least, Jimmy Carter.

The "stagflation" you're going on about is a product of greed and stupidity at all levels of our culture, not just elected officials.

I heard Sarah Palin say that our economic troubles were caused by "people buying $300,000 dollar houses when they could only afford a $100,000 dollar house". She is a complete ***** for missing this subtlety; the $100,000 dollar houses were all selling for $300,000 dollars because you had *****s willing to pay those prices, and more *****s willing to approve the loans.

I believe there will be a re-count. I am not sure who I am voting for. I respect both candiates and agrees with both of them on ceertain issues. Let me say something from my pont of view, on how i see things. In the media Obama is seen as the savior, and the only one who can make things right. He is "The Chosen One". Well on the flip side if anyone listens to 750AM. That's the station NewsTalk radio comes on in ATLANTA,GA, then you know from Hanney, Bortz, and Cain that Obama is everything but the "Savior". It seems to me that no one cares about to real facts, the real truths, the real reason "WE ARE AMERICANS"(No offense to non-Americans). Obama said that he would cut "capital gain taxes for small business owners." That sounds good, but last time I check we didnt pay captial gain taxes, we pay "Income Taxes" Im just saying. Yes I find myself lost in Obama speeches.


what can I say, he can speak hands down. I feel like hope and a sense of renewness with him. And on the flip side, I want to keep my money I make. I shouldnt have to divy up my earning to support others. Or should I. Mccain, gives me the picture of a true American. Its ok to go out and work hard, save your money and spend how ever you want to. So I am undecided.


Mccain I feel will not last his whole term in office do to "heath reasons". And yes I dont want to see Palin in as president either. I hear so much dirt about Obama, wheres the dirt on Mccain? Let me know, can someone help me?

I like both, but I dont want to live in a socialist environment, I mean I could be wrong.

Someone get dirt on Mccain(because right now, I want to keep my money and have less government in my business as possible.) I dont want people to vote for Obama just because he is black. Vote for him because you believe in his cause. Dont vote for Mccain because Obama is black. Come on people we got to do better. We have came a long way over 250 years. So I do what you want to do, but make sure its WHAT you want to do.


P.S. yall dont get mad at me, its just how I feel.
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P.S. Obama, because he is "different".

Here's the dirt you wanted on McCain. He was held prisoner by the North Viet Namese for many years. We are all the sum total of our experiences, and as such, they color our outlook and actions. I'm sure that some lonely nights, he's still there.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, at least 75% of the registered African-American voters are going to vote for Barack Obama because he's black, whether you want them to or not.

The sad part of our political system is this; you're generally only given two choices, and both of them are generally wrong, deal with it.

No, there absolutely won't be a recount. Sen. Obama will receive at least 55% of the popular vote, and only the truly delusional would try to overcome that plurality with the "hanging chad" BS.

I didn't set in a gas line, but my dad did.

And yes, we get into the four barrel quite often and still got that, but we kinda over-granny'd (if you know what im saying) it about just as often, so I think it'd even out.

Is every direction downhill from your house? LOL