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Mccain, Obama who do you think will win and why

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by matt1522, Oct 2, 2008.

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  1. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,780   +278

    WOW......You Caught Me....!

    She certainly does have the hind quarters for it. The nice thing about that would be, she couldn't run her mouth while she was dancing, and you could mute the TV during the interview. Truth to tell, if I wasn't concerned about fairness, I'd have muted the TV during the debate, as soon as I saw her lips start to move.

    In fact, I'd also like to see "Dancing With The Stars, The Next Generation", wherein her formerly pregnant teenaged daughter is on crowing about how DWTS has helped her to lose the "baby weight". Sick I know, but that's the way I feel. :evil::rolleyes:
  2. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    Does anyone think Palin "abusing" her powers will affect their campaign? Or McCain defending Obama (which he should have, of course, ignorant people thinking he's a terrorist because his middle name is Hussein).
  3. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,893   +117

    Nope. People made up their minds on who they are going to vote for a long time ago. There are very few people that are really "undecided".
  4. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,780   +278

    Power Corrupts.......Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.....

    Is anybody as completely sick of John McCain's campaign ads as I am?

    She's a woman and a politician, I'm frankly baffled how she could not be tempted to abuse her powers.

    You can't tell people anything they don't want to hear or believe. Evangelical Christians want to teach "Creationism" in the public schools, while forbidding evolution to be taught. Now, does that sound like anyone you could reason with?
    The upside is that they've already made up their minds to vote for McCain years ago, so it's unlikely that that will affect the election now that Obama's secret name is out. Besides if Barak is a terrorist, maybe he's had suicide bomber training, and he'll blow up the Whitehouse with him in it. Just kidding with that one boys and girls.

    When the dust settles, Obama will be elected president with 58% of the vote. Remember you heard it here first.

    Mopar, when you say "ignorant" do you mean stupid? Because I have an udying amazement at how stupid people really are. We're not really "Homo Sapiens", we should call the species "Homo Imbecillis". That said, you can calculate the IQ of a mob by extracting the square root of the IQ of its stupidest member. Duh, or perhaps duh, uh!

    Remember American politics works like this; you never vote for someone, you vote against someone, and I'm still counting on 58% of the people doing exactly that.
  5. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    I haven't seen but 2 ads, but then again, I rarely watch TV aside from The Simpsons and the news... Odd combination, but then again, I'm an odd 16 year old...


    Yes, but I was just wondering whether the "undecided" voters that are still around will shift over something such as this. Personally, I would.

    Actually, when I use ignorant, it's always to its true meaning.
    " 1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man."
  6. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,780   +278

    When in Alaska, Do as The Alaskans Do........

    Then you haven't seen what you're not missing.

    People are funny, I dismiss Palin as pushy, pain in the a** b****. Still, she was elected Governor of Alaska, so I suppose she has "charisma", although I can't fathom why. She can't run her own household, we're supposed to "ignore" that. I live in Philly, and she got booed last night at the Flyers game. So to the upside, I guess you really can't, "fool all the people all the time". I should qualify the "got booed" statement. Due to Philadelphia's demographics and party affiliation, Obama will likely pull 70% of our vote. So, you can just imagine how, even at a hockey game, she wasn't warmly received.

    Here's where definition gets dicey. If you choose not to seek out, or avoid gaining knowledge by decision or omission, then you're probably stupid as well. The colloquial definition of "ignorant" as being rude or ill mannered is likely powered by stupidity or laziness as well, since if you had the ambition or desire, you'd want to know how to act.

    In my own defense, I know how to act, I simply avoid doing it the accepted way.
     
  7. 1941 Banned Posts: 20

    Obama will probably win but I do not support him.
  8. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    1941, What are your reasons? I am curious, as not many people I know support McCain.
  9. 1941 Banned Posts: 20

    Obama is not qualified for the job. No experience other than 3 years in The Senate , most of which he has spent running for President. This country does need a change though so, he probably will win.
  10. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    Well, you see, that is perfectly understandable. I am just very glad you didn't say that he was a Terrorist who plans on bringing down our entire Government...

    Honestly, watching CBN news, I wanted to shoot myself for even thinking Pat Robertson was open minded...

    (No, I don't know why I thought the Christian Spokesperson would be open minded, but I did...)
  11. tw0rld TechSpot Maniac Posts: 599

    Not a terrorist, but someone with questionable intents. Have a look at the type of people he has associated himself with in the past(Wright , Resco, Acorn ...)It is time for the main stream media to finally be fair in its coverage by banging on Obama as much as it has been banging on Palin. Tv coverage of this election campaign has been terribly one-sided, and Obama has gained tremendously from this. I will not say much more as I do not wish to stir up an unnecessary verbal conflict.
  12. JimShady23 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 651

    Obama

    NO RACISM INVOVLED JUST TRYING TO SAY WHERE THE VOTES ARE GOING TO COME FROM !!!!

    Obama

    90% Ethnic Vote
    98% African American Vote
    45% White Vote

    McCain

    10% Ethnic Vote
    2% African American Vote
    52% White Vote

    Even if McCain can capture 65% of the white vote there is no way he can make up the other numbers..

    Enough Said, man is going to win no questions asked.....
  13. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    Well, from me, there will be no verbal "conflict". I will say this, what I meant by the terrorist comment, is that if you search "Obama" and "terrorist", there waere tons of stupid theories about how Obama became a devout Muslim and was out to destroy America (I am not saying that being Muslim is bad, here, just what OTHERS said), and that he did this when his Step-Father took him somewhere to Indonesia I believe.
  14. Jager Newcomer, in training

    personally, i wish Obama wouldnt have such a harsh stance on Nuclear energy... now, if he had it where he would Expand our Nuclear energy, WHILE funding research into renewable energies, then he'd have my vote. lets face it, we need the energy soon, research and development for new technology takes YEARs..
  15. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    That, my friend, is true. I believe we should really get off of Gasoline in vehicles as fast as possible. Once (if) the economy gets better, I think they should give a huge incentive for converting to electric (as they have conversion kits now) or Hybrid (Electric and Gas/Diesel, prefferebly).
  16. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,780   +278

    The trouble with nuclear energy is that it's quite a paradox. In theory it should produce cheap electricity. However, due to the necessary safeguards and complexity of the systems, it turns out to be very expensive. It's sort of like the rockets we used to reach the moon, but now development has been stifled due to cost and long ignored but still viable technology. Human greed, laziness, corruption, errors, and substandard workmanship, show up all too easily in a nuclear power plant, with the potential of widespread disaster. I lived through the doom and gloom issues of the meltdown at Three Mile Island, in my home state of PA. I'm a big advocate of nuclear power generation, but I have a very dim view of the people who would be charged with bringing it about. It's a great idea, but everyone connected with the construction of a new nuclear facility, would need a serious attitude adjustment, and quite frankly. I don't think we've evolved that far yet.
    The idea of "putting people to work and creating jobs " in the field of new methods of generating power is great, but where does the money come from. It seems to me that it would, by necessity come from increased taxes, or printing more currency, since for quite some time you would be locked into a profitless business model. After which, there wouldn't be a salable product for years and years.

    I sort of disagree with the idea that Obama isn't qualified to be president. Actually no one person is. That office is sort of like the manager's job in a sports team. There's a lot of delegating to be done, and I think the biggest part of the office is making the right decisions about who does what, not doing it yourself. Anyone who remembers Donald Rumsfield, should be aware that those delegations can go horribly wrong as well.

    It is a sad commentary on our politics that ideas and principles come in packages. This is the biggest flaw in the system that someone is for abortion, must be against nuclear power. Opinions that come in prepackaged bundles really cripple the system. Why not have "conservrabrels", ant then rein them in to do the actual will of the electorat?. See, now I sound like another crackpot huckstering a book on "Utopia".

    Anyway, John McCain presents himself as a smirking, condescending @#$%^&*(/. If he can' present a civil face in a nationally televised debate, I wonder how he would fare with dignataries of foreign states. Probably about as well as Geoge Bush, but with a bad attitude.

    A final thought: One of the big questions about JFK was, whether or not he was too young and inexperienced to be president. Or, since he was a Catholic would the Pope be running the Whitehouse. Another example might be, was Ronald Regan just an actor. What do you think?
  17. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,780   +278

    Mopar, the one thing that always gets lost when discussing electric vehicles, is how much does it cost to plug them in and charge them? If you tried to heat your home with electricity it would cost many times as much as with oil.Electricity works well for some applications and poorly for others. If suddenly all our cars were plug-me-ins, what might that do to our power generation infrastructure. Granted, that it make a difference in our carbon footprint, but still, the same people would be controlling the pricing infrastructure. There is a price penalty to be paid for purchasing "clean" energy now, and I doubt that that would change if it were to be mandated that you must.
  18. mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,487

    GEM cars, produced by Chrysler (go figure, guess why I like them? :) ) are cheap to plug in and charge.

    While it's true that these things don't go over 45 MPH (usually less), that means that it's possible to charge any electric vehicle cheaply. While it will take some R&D, I wouldn't think it would take half as much as anything else to get a cheaper electric car that will even charge using, and wasting, less electricity than, oh, your TV? **

    Here we go:
    http://www.gemcar.com/affordability/

    Look at that... I think it's pretty neat, but then again, I am me...

    ** I may have exaggerated a little here, but you get the point **
  19. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,780   +278

    Sitting Ducks.......

    A 45 MPH top speed does leave you in a very precarious postion even on a large boulevard, let alone on on of our superhighways.

    Advances in battery technology will be crucial for advancement in electrics. What we have now in the 60 miles traveled, then an overnight charge just doesn't cut it. Even with the new Lithium Ion batteries, it takes two hours or so to bring them up from flat. So, even if your local service station installs a row of charging outlets, look forward to spending a couple of hours every time you stop to "gas up".
  20. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,893   +117

    It took me a while to figure this out too, because the power still has to come from somewhere. Now that I know the reason "it is better to plug in" it seems obvious.

    The fact is internal combustion engines, gas or diesel, are only about 27-38% efficient, probably more commonly around about 33%. Meaning that out of all the chemical potential energy in gasoline or diesel, only about 33% of that goes to making the vehicle move, the rest is lost in heat, or in another conversion to electric in the alternator.

    Now what happens if you plug it in is you most likely get your power from a coal fired power plant (I know some areas have other means, but thats not the point). The point is coal power plants are over 40% efficient, and the electric motors are something much higher yet. So if you plug in rather than use your engine to charge the batteries (like in a hybrid) or simply go pure electric plug in, the total carbon emissions to the environment are less.