Microsoft reveals 400 million machines are now running Windows 10, new Edge security feature

[Raoul Duke]

I still think the Win 7 start menu is the best, most efficient MS has created. I also prefer Aero over the Flat Win 10 design. If they had only taken Win 7, rolled the 'under the scenes' improvements into it, like memory management, more useful task manager etc, etc, I think they would have had a most impressive OS, instead where they went with their philosophy was a disaster they still haven't recovered from

 

[CaptainTom]

Where do you get slow and inefficient from? Windows 7 is still a fast OS. I went back to 7 from 10 on my gaming computer and didn't notice a difference in speed. The only thing slower is the boot time, which I will admit 10 is better at. Ugly is completely personal though, and a lot of people find Windows 10 flat design ugly. I am one of them... I still like "aero" and much prefer that over the 10 design. And it isn't unsupported, most businesses are still running 7 and it is still getting updates.

You know I have never understood this: what looks so great about Aero? To me it looks cheap and unprofessional like those N64 controls you could see through.

I love the minimalist "flat" vibrant colors windows 8 (and now 10) use instead.

 

[CaptainTom]

I still think the Win 7 start menu is the best, most efficient MS has created. I also prefer Aero over the Flat Win 10 design. If they had only taken Win 7, rolled the 'under the scenes' improvements into it, like memory management, more useful task manager etc, etc, I think they would have had a most impressive OS, instead where they went with their philosophy was a disaster they still haven't recovered from

I also have never understood this infatuation with the start menu. Sure it's what old people were used to (And so it should have stayed as an option), but how does it help anything?

Windows 8 forced people to learn the faster ways of doing things. Pin things to the task bar! It's so much faster!

 

[Raoul Duke]

I do pin what I frequently use to the task bar, but at times you need access to something you very rarely use and I find the Win 7 method of listing is 'the faster way of doing things'. Big tiles and images, folders you have to click into are not fast!
As far as the display, glad you enjoy the flat colours, we both agree MS could have left it as an option

 

[captaincranky]

You know I have never understood this: what looks so great about Aero? To me it looks cheap and unprofessional like those N64 controls you could see through.

I love the minimalist "flat" vibrant colors windows 8 (and now 10) use instead.

That being the case, these should keep you amused to days:

That should be sufficient to get you going on you own OS GIU!

You're welcome! (y)

 

[Ascaris]

In other news, Windows 10 has just posted the first decline in market share since its introduction, according to netmarketshare.com, dropping 2% compared to last month's numbers (22.99% down to 22.53%). Windows 7, by comparison, has increased in market share for the second month in a row, posting an increase of 2.25% compared to last month (47.25% up to 48.27%).

 

[m-tec]

Mine slowed down on startup after the anniversary update, it went from 1 1/2 minutes to over 10 minutes.
I found the solution was to force windows defender to turn on, then I performed an offline scan (I never heard of it) and turned it off after.
Now it starts in under 1 minute, happy days!

 

[captaincranky]

In other news, Windows 10 has just posted the first decline in market share since its introduction, according to netmarketshare.com, dropping 2% compared to last month's numbers (22.99% down to 22.53%). Windows 7, by comparison, has increased in market share for the second month in a row, posting an increase of 2.25% compared to last month (47.25% up to 48.27%).

M$'s "400,000,000 installations" simply goes to prove that statistics can be made to say whatever you want them to.

First off, they gave away, (with great difficulty), about the first 300,000,000, with the "free upgrade" BS.

When Windows 7 was released, hardly anyone even knew what a "tablet" was. Now they're cramming them with Win 10.

Pretty much all new desktops, (save for Macs of course), have Win 10 jammed in them. I don't think "Chrome Books" have a sizeable market share just yet.

So, M$'s "400,000,000" installations are pretty much by either force, default, or "accident". (Really better described as "accidentally on purpose", given the win 10 surreptitious download in the background, and their "magic X" trick, which doesn't close the window, but rather causes Win 10 to install instead).

Despite slack sales of desktops, there are still more computers in service now, than there were in July 2009, (Windows 7 release date), so those numbers still sorta suck. For example more than 50% of the "installs", have to be freebies or OEM, it's really hard to tell if M$ is bragging or complaining. It's probably just a spin, to make a complaint sound like a boast.

I have 7 machines and not one of them will ever have Windows 10 on it. I wonder if they're willing to work that into their next press release. Nah, most likely not..

 

[bazz2004]

"Mine slowed down on startup after the anniversary update, it went from 1 1/2 minutes to over 10 minutes.
I found the solution was to force windows defender to turn on, then I performed an offline scan (I never heard of it) and turned it off after.
Now it starts in under 1 minute, happy days!" m-tec

Like you I am finding that Windows 10 anniversary edition has some problems. Windows 10 is great but after the big anniversary update things have been less impressive. Firstly, I have had some blue screens with restarts and the boot up time has increased noticeably though it's nothing compared with your situation. I'm trying a couple of things myself but it's too early to say if I've put it right. Windows 10 is a really good OS but I'm not noticing anything different about the new edition apart from the glitches. Also, the constant updates are getting annoying. I wish they'd transfer some of this wasted effort into their apparently dead W10 smart phone project.

 

[captaincranky]

I also have never understood this infatuation with the start menu. Sure it's what old people were used to (And so it should have stayed as an option), but how does it help anything?

Windows 8 forced people to learn the faster ways of doing things. Pin things to the task bar! It's so much faster!

You know, I'm not really over this BS post. So.....,

The fact of the matter is, there never has been a Windows edition so bad, that early adopters didn't rave about it, indicating how smart they were for installing it. That seems to be the case here, since if Windows 8 "was so great", why the heck did they pull it off the market so fast?

 

[captaincranky]

...[ ]... Also, the constant updates are getting annoying. I wish they'd transfer some of this wasted effort into their apparently dead W10 smart phone project.

You gave away your control over the update process when you decided to allow the installation of Windows 10. So, methinks suffering in silence might be appropriate and dignified.

And BTW, nice fantasy about the phone version of Windows 10. Although, when "fantasy" morphs into "delusions", is anybody's guess.

 

[bazz2004]

I love your avatar captain, it's just how I imagine you. I look in occasionally to see if there is anything useful or even interesting being posted but unfortunately there's very little. Your comment, as usual, is unhelpful and leads nowhere.

 

[captaincranky]

I love your avatar captain, it's just how I imagine you. I look in occasionally to see if there is anything useful or even interesting being posted but unfortunately there's very little. Your comment, as usual, is unhelpful and leads nowhere.

Yeah, M$ is going to stop "updating" Windows 10 home, so they can humor you with a phone version. M$ has had little to no luck with phones or players. Remember "Zune"? Hell, they even had a desktop theme for that.

How does your post, (the one I replied to), solve anything, or move the discussion forward. It's just another complaint about Windows 10 updates. There's no cures, no insight, no anything. "Physician heal thyself". You post crap, you get crap in return.

In fact, it kind of brings to mind, someone who read the article about how HP tampered with their firmware, to "update" how their printers work. What they did was, force owners to use their own expensive inks, and block less expensive aftermarket inks from functioning.

So that would be quite similar to somebody who read the article, downloaded the update anyway, and then complained about the outcome. Which is exactly analogous to having reams of documentation available about how Windows 10 behaves both with forced updates, excessive telemetry, and advertisements built into the OS beforehand, downloading and installing it anyway , then complaining about the outcome.

News flash, I seriously doubt the carrot which is DX-12 they dangled in front of your face, was worth it.

And I have a sneaking suspicion they could have somehow managed to integrate DX-12 with Windows 7 or 8 anyway. They blackmailed all you gamers out there with it.

No run along and commiserate with Cortana. Maybe "she" will have a more sympathetic ear.

Windows 8 so damaged the brand with their core customer base, and Windows 8.1 wasn't far enough away from the stigma of the then renamed ,"8.0, to make truly nice. They had to get rid of the number altogether. So now, they're hyping the big, "anniversary update", when in reality, " a rose is a rose is 'Service Pack 1'". Somehow that name didn't seem quite glamorous enough. The only thing perfected about 10 when they shoved it out the door, seems to have been the lousy update paradigm and "nag adware" disguised as an "important update".. The rest of the OS seems to have been closer to a beta offering.