Microsoft wants to get electricity from fusion energy in five years

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A hot potato: Bill Gates is a long-time proponent of funding innovative nuclear energy ventures, but Microsoft is now going way beyond this financially risky approach. Helion Energy, a Washington-based start-up, is guaranteeing Redmond it can generate electricity by nuclear fusion five years from now.

Microsoft and Helion have entered an outstanding agreement involving nuclear fusion, a source of clean, theoretically unlimited energy that Helion is betting will be commercially viable by 2028. The Washington start-up is essentially planning to plug its innovative (and potentially revolutionary) technology into the electric grid within 5 years, achieving something that the international scientific community, governments and private companies all over the world have been chasing for almost a century.

A statement from Helion founder and CEO David Kirtley highlights how the venture has nothing to do with science fiction or a potential commercial fraud: the company signed a "binding agreement" with Microsoft, which means Helion is committed to "be able to build" a working system and sell energy to Redmond to avoid paying harsh financial penalties.

Nuclear fusion is universally considered the "holy grail" of energy, as scientists are essentially trying to replicate what happens at the center of every star in the universe in a controlled manner. When two hydrogen nuclei are pushed against each other by overwhelming pressure and gravity force, they fuse together, generating a new helium nucleus. According to the law of mass-energy equivalence, a major portion of matter within the fusion reaction turns into the gargantuan amount of electromagnetic energy we can see every day coming down from the sky.

The traditional (and most advanced) approaches to try and replicate the fusion process in a contained reaction involve a powerful laser system "shooting" at a tiny target of fusion fuel, or a magnetic field designed to compact superheated plasma energy in a machine known as tokamak. The US Department of Energy recently said it achieved an unprecedented scientific breakthrough with fusion ignition, but no one has been able to attain, or even promise, what Helion is now betting it can do in a five-year timespan.

The company is developing a new machine which employs a completely different method for energy generation. The 40-foot device is a "plasma accelerator" capable of heating deuterium (a hydrogen isotope) and helium-3 atoms to 100 million degrees Celsius, creating a plasma flux which is then "shot" at the center of the machine by powerful, pulsing magnetic fields. When fusion happens, the machine converts heat into electric energy, which is finally sent to the grid.

Helion says its system can "electrically recover" all the energy put in the machine to feed fusion ignition, and the system itself would "quickly" become smaller and cheaper in the future. The company also states that getting enough deuterium and the rare helium-3 isotope fuel is not an issue, as there's a patented process to make more helium-3 atoms by fusing deuterium atoms together in its plasma accelerator.

Scientists and experts are baffled, but they're also giving Helion some credit while waiting for the technical details about this new fusion energy wonder. One of Helion founders is OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. Microsoft made a huge investment in OpenAI to push ChatGPT's generative AI throughout its entire product portfolio, so Altman could very much be one of the main proponents for the 2018 agreement.

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I think that if they put the hydrogen material inside a special manipulated magnetic field and if they use laser with frequency compatible with the eigenfrequency of they hydrogen then they could make the fusion procedure (it’s a form of nonelastic collision) more efficient.
 
Nah - don't believe it - well not the five year part - too many things to overcome - no maintain fusion , draw off power in a consistent manner with no down time
Anyway happy to be proved wrong
 
A private application will no doubt be faster than a Govt. sponsored one. The biggest issue will be at what price they "share" the technology if they do at all. This is one of the few applications that I think the Govt. should privatize once developed in order to benefit all of us, but keep the politicians out of it or we'll end up paying double and be at their every whim .....
 
A private application will no doubt be faster than a Govt. sponsored one. The biggest issue will be at what price they "share" the technology if they do at all. This is one of the few applications that I think the Govt. should privatize once developed in order to benefit all of us, but keep the politicians out of it or we'll end up paying double and be at their every whim .....

This the USA. One needs to remember that a huge chunk of US politicians are deep in the pockets of every conceivable energy company.

So, thinking we'll be better in private hands is not really a safe option either.
 
Considering researchers can't make it generate energy yet who have been studying it for decades, a 5 year target sounds completely bananas
NASA was throwing the rocket engines in sea and building new ones so they could suck up the taxpayers' money. Even if 100 years went by they would never have invented something like what SPACEX invented. Has anyone at NASA ever been audited for this waste of (tens of billions of $) public money?
 
So, thinking we'll be better in private hands is not really a safe option either.
Here in the UK, a place where Thatcher privatised our entire energy market, has meant higher bills, higher tax and this was in the news just today to see how bad its gotten and I'll post a quote from it as well:

"Energy companies like Octopus Energy, one of Europe's largest investors in renewable energy, say they have been told by National Grid that they need to wait up to 15 years for some connections - far beyond the government's 2035 target."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65500339

The National Grid is now so bad, they have a waiting list of more than 15 years if another company builds a solar or wind farm and wants to connect it to the rest of the country.

Then when you look at somewhere like France, who re-nationalised EDF, Much lower bills than in the UK, no weird delays on everything, barely increased taxes to do it.
 
Could it be they used ChatGPT to find the most efficient way for nuclear fusion?
No ChatGPT is not an expert on really specialist subjects - however he could of have feed a private version all the papers that he could get his hands on to give a review and generate some ideas.
Plus I'm sure researchers probably use AI already in some form - for a torus design - you need to predict things moving super fast and implement control - plus sense super quick and control very quick - so maybe need a real quick fuzzy logic system
 
Here in the UK, a place where Thatcher privatised our entire energy market, has meant higher bills, higher tax and this was in the news just today to see how bad its gotten and I'll post a quote from it as well:

"Energy companies like Octopus Energy, one of Europe's largest investors in renewable energy, say they have been told by National Grid that they need to wait up to 15 years for some connections - far beyond the government's 2035 target."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65500339

The National Grid is now so bad, they have a waiting list of more than 15 years if another company builds a solar or wind farm and wants to connect it to the rest of the country.

Then when you look at somewhere like France, who re-nationalised EDF, Much lower bills than in the UK, no weird delays on everything, barely increased taxes to do it.

Thatcher and Regan the gifts that keep on giving long after they're gone. You can trace to downfall of western civilization to these two scum.
 
Nah - don't believe it - well not the five year part - too many things to overcome - no maintain fusion , draw off power in a consistent manner with no down time
Anyway happy to be proved wrong

You know that in space, with satellites and all that, they are capable of nuclear drive power using a radiant peace of uranium or whatever and TEC's to convert the heat into power. This makes it possible for satellites to stay in space for decades and pretty much operate on their own without the use of solar panels.

We're not far away of something that could power infinite - this on a small scale able to drive power in a car for weeks; thousands of miles on one thing. We need that evolution. Human mankind is all about evolution. Without evolution our purpose in this space would be obsolete.
 
NASA was throwing the rocket engines in sea and building new ones so they could suck up the taxpayers' money. Even if 100 years went by they would never have invented something like what SPACEX invented. Has anyone at NASA ever been audited for this waste of (tens of billions of $) public money?
One is landing a rocket on a pad on the sea, the other is making a machine act like the sun and make energy, and nothing has been done of the sort, its not like spacex had to understand how rockets land - one is an engineering problem, the other is a practical physics problem, 2 different things.
Oh and NASA is probably one of the worst examples of project management and keeping to timelines
 
And for the 200 billion Trillionth time the gods had a good laugh between themselves as they settled their bets and watched yet another biological civilisation convert their planet into a star. Only minutes earlier a similar planet had gone down the route of the black hole, which is where the majority of the bets had actually been placed that time ;-)
 
I've been getting electricity from fusion energy for years now, I have these things called 'solar panels'. They work quite well!
 
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