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Mix UATA with SATA150

By LipsOfVenom
Aug 26, 2006
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  1. I have a 150 GB raptor and a 160 GB Western Digital Caviar. Would there be any problem if I used them both on the same motherboard since the raptor is SATA but the Caviar is IDE?
  2. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 4,985

    No problem at all, im currently running 1 ata and 1 sata.

    It only becomes a problem if you wish to boot from sata and forget to put sata driver disk in during windows install.
  3. LipsOfVenom

    LipsOfVenom Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 256

    I see. Is there a message that will pop up during XP install that will prompt me to insert the disk? Is it the "install 3rd party drivers" message during the blue install screen? Thanks for your help rik.
  4. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,582

    my board use xp software drivers some boards use the MB's manufactorer's drivers
    I used seagate disc to load xp drivers
    you may need your MB disc or go to there website and get the drivers
    drivers are for the sata i/o controller that is onboard
    you may get a prompt found new hardware let it run and see if it loads xp drviers if it fails tik the box don't ask again
    then find the right drivers
    if you have os on the ide should have no issues with the sata install

    running xp from sata with ide can be a truoblesome config
  5. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    In general, don't mix SATA with IDE, while it will work, it is buggy. Windows will default to IDE during crashes and if your OS is on SATA you could wind up with boot problems. Use one or the other.
  6. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 4,985

    Well i use both with absolutely no problems!!!
  7. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,582

    while I use both with no issues
    other than that crazy user (ME) that pulls drives out and swaps them around carelessly then I will get a no boot sandwich for lunch.

    others from all round not just here have same problems
    I'm think.n the sata thing is fairly new and bios code is not keepin up with the firmware
    as tedster has said xp code does not handle them well
    if you are new at this stick to ide boot drives if you are going to mix them up
  8. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    like I said, it will work, however, it is prone to get errors, especially during crashes. If yours works, fine, but I hate to be the one who says "I told you so!"
  9. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    Whaaaa?

    Windows will crash and boot to your IDE drive? What kind of crash are we talking about?

    The BIOS selects the boot drive. Once that's decided, the BIOS loads the boot loader. The boot loader determines what OS to load by using ntdetect and boot.ini. The 'crash' would have to change either the values of boot.ini, BIOS or rewrite the boot loader and/or MBR - Sounds more like a virus to me. ;)

    ... And even if this did happen, fixing it using the bootable Windows CD is pretty straight forward. The only additional problem posed by SATA is the F6 button for drivers, which as long as you have a floppy disk (Internal or USB), you're golden. :)
  10. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    If have seen for myself (I had a mixed system at one time) and also heard from others about Windows crashing for a variety of reasons on mixed systems. Then windows gets "confused" and searches for the OS on the IDE drive in which it is not on. This is why I never recommend using mixed systems. Yes, they will work, but in the event of a system crash - you're taking chances. Besides, if you're gonna go SATA, go all the way. Why bother with the older drives. Sell 'em and upgrade.
    Such crashes may be more hardware related, and perhaps newer motherboards have fixed this issue, but it is definately an issue. I never recommend using IDE and SATA together on the same system.
  11. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,582

    I think the issue is more about the sata drivers written for the i/o controllers
    and no I don't know how many diff controllers are out there
    I use 6300esb intel drivers with and without raid
    I have very rare chip it is not the 6300 chip it's a dev.
    one would hope by now there are more stable chips and drivers that go with them.
    and wait the sata firmware almost forgot
    bios control versus the hdd firmware control during boot time


    and knitting and knitting
     
  12. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    it very well could be a driver issue. Whatever the cause, I don't recommend mixing the types.
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