Mobo not reading Processor Type/Speed

By }{yBr!D^
May 5, 2006
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  1. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    Yea, that was with both sticks...

    I changed the timing and such.. it seemed more stable... but after a while (about 2 hrs and a half) is rebooted... if the ram is faulty then what? buy a new stick or both?
  2. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    Ok, I have tried both stick individually and both by themselves have rebooted the system.

    I have messed with the timing and set the CAS Latency to 3 and some other things to keep the machine stable but it still reboots but the PC lasts a bit longer.

    I really don't understand much about RAM timing so here is what my motherboard has in the BIOS to see if I can get further assistance.


    These are all default or "By Spd"
    DRAM CAS Latency [2.5] (I have to choose from 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3)
    Bank Interleave [ Disabled] (I have to choose from Disabled, 2 Bank, 4 Bank)
    Precharge to Active (Trp) [5T] (I have to choose from 2T, 3T, 4T, 5T)
    Active to Precharge (Tras) [7T] (I have to choose from 6T, 7T, 8T, 9T)
    Active to CMD (Trcd) [5T] (I have to choose from 2T, 3T, 4T, 5T)
    DRAM Burst Length [4] (I have to choose from 4, 8)
    DRAM Command Rate [2T] (I have to choose from 2T Command, 1T Command)

    Hopefully you guys can help me make sense of this, I will be running memtest on each stick now so I might not be on.

    I also got the PC to last longer this time so I can post this with the CAS Latency at 3... bank interleave at 4 bank, Precharge to Active at 4 and Active to CMD at 4 I think...
  3. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

  4. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    Ok.. 11 passes using memtest and it found 949,028 errors...
  5. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    Good news then! We found your problem. You need some new ram.
  6. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74


    I appreciate the help.. one bad stick... RMA with rosewill and newegg so there isn't a problem.. so yea I'm sending it back tomorrow so I can get it asap lol.. good thing I never got rid of the old ram lol... the system is stable now with the old ram though.. PC 2100 though.
  7. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    Little update.. I figured out the timing thing by myself... but yesterday morning I woke up to find my PC shut off... figured the lights went out and little did I know that there was a power spike then... it happens to the motherboard and power supply died... so bought a new PSU (400w) and another MSI board... which is now a KM4M-V (old one was KM3M-V...) everythings working now and stable.
  8. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

  9. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    It was a "blessing" but lol... I would of rather kept the old system and never spent that 130 dollars for both the motherboard and the PSU... the mobo is a step up from my old one being the same brank and a model up of the old one lol... hey it has SATA II now lol (150)

    by the way, I do have a surge protector which is a belkin... but it seems to not be defending the PC anymore... so now I plugged it into a wall mount protector lol..
  10. nork

    nork TechSpot Maniac Posts: 631

    Just one comment. I noticed you had chassis intrusion turned on. When troubleshooting you should go into bios and turn off chassis intrusion and anything else that isnt needed. It helps to eliminate some suspects.
    In your case memtest did the job. Sorry to hear about the power spike and subsequent damage. NO pc should be without a UPS, ever! And if you think the power spike was bad then you wouldnt want to run into a low power (brown-out) state as that is even worse on pcs and destroys even more pc parts. And these can happen in the blink of an eye, thats how fast the UPS's have to work! In a way I am lucky as my part of my town is known to have real poor power so everyone is on a UPS. But i did learn the hard way, lol, until i found out about our poor power. Heck even our lights dim for seconds at a time and this is even worse than power surges as i pointed out.

    Hope you enjoy your new mobo. I have an MSI Neo2 and i am not ready to move on. I like my Neo2 just as it is!!
  11. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    Well, the area I live in isn't known for frequent power loss or spikes... plus the my father in law is an electrician lol... I will eventually get a UPS for all of my machines, and about that chassis intrusion thing, I've never seen that in my BIOS so I don't know how to shut if off.
     
  12. nork

    nork TechSpot Maniac Posts: 631

    Sorry, i was only trying to make sure you understand how important it is and that we should all be using a UPS. Certainly, if you had been using one you wouldnt have lost the pc parts that you lost. So it appeared to be a good time to make others understand that we should all use one.

    As for the chassis intrusion, i noticed, post #16, page 1, that it was turned on. If you read your mobo manual you will find it. It may help and it wont hurt if you go into bios and turn off chassis intrusion. I have seen it cause problems with other setups.
  13. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    No need to be sorry, I understand that it is best to have a UPS to practically save the computer and I'm aware that by having one probably loss of hardware or waste of money wouldn't have occured. I will purchase some later on once I build the other system I have planned. As for this system... I've checked the complete BIOS and I have never seen that chassis intrusion thing you speak of, I believe in the first page I posted a link to the motherboards manual if you care to take a look...

    Little update, I removed the 3000+ processor which seems to be causing most of the problem since I put the old PC 2100 RAM... I think maybe since the RAM is under clocked and its at speeds of 133MHz as to the processor being 166MHz that it might of caused something... I'll wait till the new RAM comes back to see if they help any when put together at the same frequency.
  14. nork

    nork TechSpot Maniac Posts: 631

    }{yBr!D^, I will check out your manual when i have time. Should be there but mistakes can happen, lol. Its not likely to be a cause of your probs anyway, but you never know.

    As for the UPS, thanks for your reply and all is fine. I rant a bit on that topic because i consider it very important and basic and we never hear about it, lol.
  15. nork

    nork TechSpot Maniac Posts: 631

    ok, i dloaded your manual and i see it on page 11. It says chassis intrusion switch connector. It says "if the chassis is open the switch will be short" meaning if the case is off the bios will be notified. I dont know if it will turn off your system or cause any other problems. Im not really up on this, only reason i mentioned it in the first place is because on the first page you listed a ton of info and it pointed out the chassis intrusion as being turned "on". It may be a problem and it may not be a problem. We need to find out before you start spending money to repair your system. We need someone with more experience to help us out or we need you to go into the bios and find the place where you can simply turn chassis intrusion off, if indeed it can be done via the bios, maybe not.
    Actually i hope i have found something and it helps you out, but my guess is its maybe a waste of time. Could be the software mis-reporting as well, just thought of that. This type of software is known to easily make errors.
    Still, we may need to find out for sure.

    Reading this again, it does specifically state that "you must enter the bios".
    So there is a setting in your bios apparently. Then again, its an option so maybe yours doesnt have this. But why does it show up as turned on in the list of info you have on the first page?
  16. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    After reading the manual, I found out that it was on page 7 not 11.

    It states JCI1 (Optional)

    "This connector is connected to 2-pin connector chassis switch. If the Chassis is open, the switch will be short. The system will record this status. To CLEAR the warning, you MUST enter the BIOS setting and clear the status."

    So it clearly states that the only reason I should go into the bios to do anything with chassis intrusion is to clear the warning status... I don't have a jumper on the switch which could be the case that its on, but I've opened the chassis and the PC has never shut off, but just in case I'll put a jumper there and see if it shuts off or helps the problem...

    Yesterday I removed the 3000+ processor and everything seems to be stable, I noticed under the 3000+ processor that where some pins are the color has changed.. from a brown color to a white-ish beige... this is under 10 pins.
  17. }{yBr!D^

    }{yBr!D^ Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 74

    Just a little update.. I RMA both the processor and RAM sticks... so yea.. hopefully when I get all three things back everything should be stable.
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