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More than 600,000 Macs infected with Flashback Trojan downloader

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  1. Leeky TechSpot Moderator Posts: 4,344   +59

    Investigations by Russian antivirus firm Dr. Web have concluded that more than 600,000 Mac computers are currently infected by the new strain of Flashback Trojan, with a massive 56.6% of…

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  2. bielius TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 212   +10

    That's a lot, but they can't compare to PC's yet :(
  3. SalaSSin Newcomer, in training Posts: 60   +11

    Queue someone laughing with the "no viruses for Mac" adagio...

    Wait, i just did it...
  4. Sunny87 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 101   +7

    I haven't been infected thank you ClamXav and well done to my lack of ignorance enabling Mac OS X built in firewall, lets be honest here though this is not the first time Java has been under this sort of publicity, I also believe there was a similar thing with flash, and thats why ladies and gentle men I have moved on from making websites with flash HTML5 ftw!
  5. TechM633 Newcomer, in training Posts: 33

    I cant wait to watch Apple and it's isheep followers explain this one away.....LOL!!
  6. Sunny87 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 101   +7

    They won't they will turn it on other brands, they will now use the excuse of "Well now we are getting more popular"

    If I remember rightly there was an iPod virus a few years ago, all of that got shoved to Microsoft (tbh Apple was the carrier of the virus, it didn't do anything until you plugged it into a Microsoft computer and it infected millions of other portable storage devices around the world)

    And I will say I think lots of the Apple fanboys that where so ignorant to the virus thing are dying off or keeping very quite these days, I worked with a contractor in a school when we where fitting Mac Os X into the music department, and I asked him he's views on viruses and I stated about if they where more popular that they would be getting attacked more and because I wanted to install antivirus software across the network, and he's response to this was "Mac's getting viruses is and always will be a myth" I wonder where he is now?
     
  7. quote: ""Queue someone laughing with the "no viruses for Mac" adagio...""

    This is just urban myth that died out in the early 2000's . And the people that do say it are just silly. Its good thing that windows has no silly users.
  8. quote: ""They won't they will turn it on other brands, they will now use the excuse of "Well now we are getting more popular"""

    are you saying they are getting malware now because they are NOT getting more popular? True reasons are never excuses but rather reasons.
  9. NTAPRO TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 576   +44

    Of course the US would have the highest percentage :(
  10. Sunny87 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 101   +7

    I think there getting them because groups that make viruses want to be the ones that did, I'm not one to be saying anything about popularity as I simply don't know what the figures are on the amount of users from one system to the next, I'm just speculating on what might happen or be said.
  11. Not really surprising as the Mac people don't think they can get viruses, since they have been told that. If you can't get them, no need to protect your computer, no protection means you are more likely to get something.
  12. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,891   +117

    For those that have a Mac and didn't click through on instructions to see if you are infected, I'll put how here. Open Terminal and copy paste.

    defaults read /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info LSEnvironment

    If that comes back with "The domain/default pair of (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info, LSEnvironment) does not exist" then copy paste this in Terminal:

    defaults read ~/.MacOSX/environment DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES

    If that comes back with "The domain/default pair of (/Users/YourUserName/.MacOSX/environment, DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES) does not exist" then you are safe. If it doesn't, click through on the link in the article for the F-Secure removal page.

    Aside from that, it is interesting that the trojan backs out if it finds an AV or LittleSnitch installed. The article gives an explanation for why that is. But if you don't put in your password, the trojan also backs out if you have Word, Office 2008 or 2011, or Skype. I don't understand the reasoning for backing out with those apps installed.


    Also, just a note to everyone calling this a virus. It isn't, it is a trojan. That doesn't change the fact that a Mac can be 'infected', and most attacks on computers now are trojans rather than viruses. I'm only pointing this out because you are getting the terminology wrong, and when you are doing so to laugh at Mac users it makes you sound about as informed on things are you perceive a Mac user to be.
  13. Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,071   +84

    An urban myth? They should probably tell their apostles in the Apple Stores then - I've heard that "Macs don't have viruses" diatribe spouted off multiple times in the last 6 months (in different stores) as part of the sales pitch to convince hapless buyers as to why the Macbook is "worth so much more than a PC."
  14. Sunny87 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 101   +7

    It's all well and good trying to argue the difference between the term virus and trojan, but as long as it got through it's still open to other things happening, for a while now windows machines that get infected with a trojan often fall apart from there getting viruses shortly afterwards depending on the type of attack the trojan is scripted to do, people have tried and failed before to argue the difference between the two, but with AV software reporting trojans as found viruses you're not going to change anyones minds or terminology's of explaining that they have a virus or trojan.

    And yeah I agree fanboyisum is rife I've been fighting it for a years but I feel the need to give up!
  15. cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,298   +291

    Forgive my ignorance, as I've always thought of a trojan as being a special type of virus. I've always seen virus as a general term for all infection aside from ad-ware.

    Since you brought it up, I can see now that virus has a category to itself.

    Malware includes: (Malware Wikipedia link)
    • computer viruses
    • worms
    • trojan horses
    • spyware
    • adware
    • most rootkits
    To be honest I've never really separated spyware and adware into their own categories either. :/

    Instead of keeping up with which one belongs to what category, I will refer to everything as malware.
  16. Sunny87 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 101   +7

    You just proved my point above most people (I'm also guilty as above) find it quicker and easier to just place them under one term, the average user cares not for the difference but worries just as much the same be it virus,trojan, malware act.
  17. ... because EVERY layman knows "Macs can't catch viruses" lol
  18. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,891   +117

    Thats fine, I even put in my post it doesn't make much difference because the Mac is still being 'infected'. I'm just saying, everyone loves these threads because its free reign to bash the Mac community. In one breath (even in this thread) people say they are hearing diatribes about mac's not getting viruses, then in the next breath they are citing this as an example. The terminology exists, and the people that get all excited about reading how a Mac has a trojan vulnerability are using incorrect terminology.

    So at the time you are laughing at Macs "don't get viruses", the people you are making fun of for saying that are still technically correct.

    So there is a distinction in it.

    Now, having said that, to paraphrase something I saw elsewhere, this all fits into the realm of "stuff I don't want on my Mac". So in the general sense, your point is made and understood.

    I'm just saying, that it seems like people's anti Mac attitude gets the best of them in these threads and then confusing or not knowing the difference in the terms makes you sound just as uninformed as the Mac users you love to hate.

    All it takes is 1 more letter of typing to type 'trojan' rather than 'virus' and this could be avoided (but then that would have reduced the amount of posts in this thread significantly).

    Edit - just in my typing this post, a guest further proved my point.
  19. mario TechSpot Developer Posts: 384   +6

    Something very important missing from the comments, this issue is only caused by holes in third-party software, Apple has stopped bundling Flash and Java on OS X since Lion because of these kind of security issues.
  20. RH00D TechSpot Booster Posts: 308   +31

    You're trying to shift the blame away from Apple but the point everyone is making is that the OS X platform is vulnerable, which it is. Doesn't matter if it's through third-party holes or not. The point is that the OS X platform can be and is being exploited.