Motivations re post counts and titles

By jobeard
Oct 29, 2008
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  1. At various times and threads, the value of post counts and/or user titles has been
    aired. Personally, I think that the post counts lead to childish pseudo-status that invites poor behavior, ie
    trivial comments and follow-ups with little substance.

    Even the use of titles leans in that direction (imo).

    The intent of both is clear (and somewhat useful), but
    the big egos seem to use/abuse them. I wonder what would
    happen if both were withdrawn (pure academic curiosity!)

    Someone else commented in a P.M;
    Hmm.. personally, I find that it mimics life in a way.

    Post count and titles are alike status in society, where people seek designer
    goods, branded good looking digital gadgets, cars and apartments etc.

    As such, perhaps this is like an extension of life in a way; removing it may prove to
    lead to some unforeseeable detrimental circumstances.

    After many years in the corporate world, I observed that those with recognized titles
    (eg Chief Scientist, Software Architect, Marketing Director) can and frequently intimidate others
    in public meetings, sometimes unintentionally and sometimes not so!

    When titles and status are not obvious to the participants, comments
    get to be evaluated by there content, applicability, utility, and effectiveness rather
    than the defacto credence that is applied to titled persons.
    It is then that
    the informal leaders (ie: those without formal titles) rise to the occasion and their
    comments are evaluated equally on the field of ideas.

    With a population of naive users with little experience seek help online,
    CLEARLY there is a need to identify those with experience from others with little.
    Posting our background info in our profiles may not be sufficient for someone less familiar with the industry.
    It's an imperfect world and public forums mirror the population they serve, so it's
    unlikely that there's another solution that would avoid the appeal to authority that comes from time to time.

    Please pardon the rant if you're offended. I hope we can ask ourselves
    "Am I attempting to solve the user's problem" before we click Post Reply.
  2. almcneil

    almcneil TS Guru Posts: 1,277

    Iron Ring

    I concur and can even give a slightly different but equally pointed example.

    It's actually from my former days as an engineer Engineers who graduate from canadian universities are given what is called an "Iron Ring" It's actually made of stainless steel. It's meant for the pinky finger and it's rigged to remind us that engineering is not a perfect discipline and we must strive to overcome our mistakes and shortcomings. Yeah, well, let me tell you, a lot of non-engineering coworkers sure don't like the sight of that ring. In high tech we also employment a lot of comp science grads and also math and physics. They quietly gripe they resent the sight of that "Iron Ring" and how we call ourselves "engineers" as the word has an impressive sound to it. It didn't matter that I have them the same respect and even argued, "The person makes the biggest difference, not the degree or school they went to" Some just didn't like that ring we wear. They found it arrogant.

    I know the feeling.

    -- Andy
  3. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,689   +395

    Been discussed several times before, and they've stayed. I certainly hope that that doesn't change.

    Removing Post Counts
    Feb 2003, when I had far fewer than I do now.
    May 2003
    No more post counts?
    For the record, during that thread, the post counts were removed. Then later brought back (obviously).

    I think its been discussed a few more times, I just went from the links that were given at the bottom of this page.

    Post counts should stay, there are many excellent points made by a lot of people in those threads I linked, and I still think they hold true today. Just because there was a little spat recently doesn't mean we need to go tossing out post counts and titles. People have always had disagreements, always will.
  4. AtK SpAdE

    AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,495

    I think your logic is flawed. This is a technical website, and people who post more, do, 9 times out of 10 know more. And this knowledge can help solve the threads.

    Of course there are going to be a few bad apples. Thus is human nature, but I think these people should not ruin something that is useful.
  5. momok

    momok TS Rookie Posts: 2,265

    Hmm.. I think these sort of sums it for me:
    on some other forums, the spam section is always overflowing, even when it doesn't add to post count. But that's the spam section of course.
    On the same note, I was thinking about how the more posts a person has, it also has an inherent check on his quality.

    Moderators help to remove rubbish posts, close tricky threads, and ban users who step out of line. All these help reduce the potential amount of bad posts that can be made by that same user. In this sense, a 'bad apple' having a high post count naturally means this guy has exposed himself to more risk to being moderated.

    As for certain sections of the forum (such as introductions, but doesn't really affect me since I seldom post there anyway), perhaps no post count should be added in those sections. Meaning if I post in that section, my post count doesn't go up.
  6. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

    Even MS TechNet forums have "Post count" on its members.

    Actually pretty sure 99% of all forums have this.

    The reason is simple (even to the computer newbie) New and old, members want to know who they are communicating with. If the member has had a long standing, or been involved in TechSpot (to be specific) for a reasonable amount of postings.

    I know that when I have signed up to different forums across the net, I have initially seeked out the guidance from a higher post count member (basically not a passer byer) This is because I feel secure in knowing I'm receiving the forums point of view in general, and not that specific member's ideas (both although having possible excellent answers or not)

    For that matter, I don't believe any member should post their experience during or within their posts, to validate themselves; this type of posting should remain in the Introduce yourself forum. The post count should not be beneficial for the actual member (except as a recognition of services given) but beneficial to the member seeking help, knowing that they'll likely stick with them, respecting the forum they're on.

    My take: Post count should stay

    Signed: Present No.1 Post count member :)

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