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Mozilla Suite 1.7.13 released

By Tedster
Apr 24, 2006
  1. mozilla has released 1.7.13 for the suite users.

    superior to firefox. Give it a try.


    www.mozilla.org
     
  2. Peddant

    Peddant TS Rookie Posts: 1,446

  3. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Avant has released 10.2 Build 51, 04.11.2006

    Superior to Mozilla suite, Firefox, and Opera

    www.avantbrowser.com


    (lol, just keeping the flow here)
     
  4. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Topic Starter Posts: 6,000   +15

    um does opera still force you to view ads?
     
  5. Peddant

    Peddant TS Rookie Posts: 1,446

    No,they gave that up last year.It`s all free,no nags,no ads.Just a lean mean browsing machine.
     
  6. Spike

    Spike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,168

    Isn't Avant simply a shell for MSIE??
     
  7. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    Why not SeaMonkey? It uses Gecko 1.8.
     
  8. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Pretty much. But that doesn't mean much, since it adds all the same blocks as the rest. Multi-tabbed, popup block, AX block. Matter of fact you can block dang near anything you want (images, flash, java, scripting etc..). Built-in search, address bar shortcuts a'la AOL, one click temps cleaner, grouped tabs and favs, auto-saving all open pages in case the pc crashes you can get all pages back, mouse gestures and much more.
    All the cool stuff you could possibly need. Tiny installer. It just uses the IE renderer I guess, so it can support the same pages, if you have all the blocks off.
    I've used it for years.

    Anyhoo, your answer is.....yes. lol
     
  9. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    You don't get the main advantage of NOT using IE : Security!

    Even with every features M$ could add to IE, it's still stinks on security level.

    REASON = ActiveX.
     
  10. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    M$ doesn't add to Avant. Avant adds to IE. And not ALL IE, just the engine.

    You can turn AX off if you like, or use it if you need it. I use it sometimes, for win updates, games, bandwidth tests etc... Or just turn it off. Not a big deal.
    I've attached an image of the Tools menu, you can see lots of stuff can be turned on and off in one click. Not controlled by IE or M$, Avant takes over.

    What Avant DOES lack, is not security, but FF's stricter adherance to proper XHTML and CSS. Because it uses IE's more sloppy interpreter. But a very minor deal in my eyes. I use IE, FF and Avant when testing pages I write.
     
  11. Jimbo420

    Jimbo420 TS Rookie Posts: 356

    I am with Vigilante on this one. I hate both mozilla and firefox with a passion. Always seem to take twice as long to load the broswer window up and I have always just like the feel of IE better, even though security wise is sucks.

    Also I have run test with it Avant take about half as much memory as Mozilla or Firefox.

    Can't say much about Opera never used it before.
     
  12. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    We don't know how much RAM IE's taking when the OS is booting tho...

    I have much more problems with IE : some pages are just NOT loading at all, it makes me believe that something happens and there's nothing. You can call that slow! That's a zero : infinite difference.

    I'm a long time Mozilla user : I was using Netscape Communicator back then...
    The move to Gecko engine got things to slow down a lot...
    Gotta give a try to SeaMonkey one day!
     
  13. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    I tried Netscape back in the day and couldn't stand it. I think it was called Navigator in those days.

    I think this discussion deserves a turn, has anybody used IE 7 beta yet?

    I've had to install it twice simply to fix IE 6 issues. It's pretty clean, but haven't used it regularly.
     
  14. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    I guess you meant 8.54?

    Anyhow, Mozilla Suite includes much more than just a browser, so I wouldn't really compare it directly to other browsers.
     
  15. Peddant

    Peddant TS Rookie Posts: 1,446

    I like to stay ahead :)
    Opera has very good email,search,pop up blocker and RSS,if that`s what you mean.
     
  16. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    Mozilla Suite includes web-browser, e-mail and newsgroup client, IRC chat client, and HTML page editor.
     
  17. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    Yup! Navigator. (But they then changed the name to Communicator after that - I think that's when they added the Mail program and all this)

    Just tried SeaMonkey, it's faster than Firefox to start.
     
  18. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Why do we need Mozilla suite AND SeaMonkey? Don't they have similar purposes?
     
  19. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    If you have SeaMonkey you don't want Mozilla Suite. Mozilla completely stopped to work on Mozilla Suite (Except secutiry fixes), and SeaMonkey is an other project which is the Mozilla Suite, but it'S being upgraded. The main difference between both is that Mozilla has nothing to do with the development of SeaMonkey(But they upgrade Gecko). It's maintained by the open source community entierly now.
     
  20. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Topic Starter Posts: 6,000   +15

    not true anymore. I have mozilla suite (not seamonkey) apparantly they have started wortk back up on the old project.
     
  21. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Topic Starter Posts: 6,000   +15

    I never saw the need for firefox from the beginning. Mozilla web browser did it all.
     
  22. Spike

    Spike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,168

    It did. And that was exactly why firefox was needed. For your average user, the mozilla interface looked complicated and daunting, with advanced features cluttering it up when in truth, most people couldn't care less about even half of them.

    In short, Mozilla Suite is an "everything in the box" package. Firefox is a web browser. The proof of this particular pudding is in the popularity of firefox. To the average person, mozilla suite is incredibly bloated, and very messy.
     
  23. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    Big news, I didn't know this one.

    So there's going to be a Mozilla Suite 1.8?
     
  24. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Topic Starter Posts: 6,000   +15

    Hmm... I never found it so.... sure there were a few features that most people never used, but I could hardly say the interface was confusing.
     
  25. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    I am using Thunderbird now and it seems pretty nice, I use it as my spaminator client. I get a LOT of messages there, well, for me it's a lot, maybe 30 a day. The only thing I notice is when I try to grab a lot of messages, maybe a hundred or so, and try to delete, it lags a bit.
    I also use a client called Foxmail, pretty nice.

    Reason I say is, since I already use Thunderbird, maybe I should try Mozilla again and the browser?
    Although I'm happy with my Firefox, I've got my web dev tool plugins and so on. So not sure I need Mozilla, I tried it a while back on a system I built to sell but didn't spend a lot of time with it. I'm happy with Avant, I live in Avant. I can't say I "want" any more features, and I can't say there are any I could do without. It suits me right down.

    Ok, well this was a worthless post, guess I'm bored...
     
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