Multi daily BSOD will PayPal for fix

By Zocheyado
Jul 31, 2011
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  1. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    you can turn the system on, but the system cannot crash without me doing something, as the system is stable just not when i run lots of things, and I cannot boot into windows to test anything, without my hard drive and I cannot see anything without my graphics card as I have no built in vidoe, =/ here is the first crash since the reinstall.

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  2. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Same ATI driver. Do you still have your Nvidia card? If so, completely uninstall the ATI one and reinstall the Nvidia card.

    By the way, you are getting 0x01 errors and these are usually caused by corrupted files within Windows. Where did you purchase your Windows OS from?
  3. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Got the copy from newegg.com, I don't have the nvidia card anymore, but It was weird because that is what was causing them before was the nvidia error. Do you really think it could be my OS? I could always download a copy online and then use my cd key. Although at one point I did install windows xp, and it too blue screened on me once.
  4. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Okay well assuming it is not my software since I have resintalled every driver like 20 times and my OS multiple times, Its safe to assume its hardware, Im guessing since The graphics card was breaking it before and is still again, that it has to be the motherboard unless I got 2 bad graphics cards causing the same symptoms from 2 totally separate companies.
  5. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    I really feel for you. I was thinking just earlier how your frustration level has to be sky high. I also have to hand it to you for your relentless work because if it was me I would either have run my head into a brick wall or I would have brought out my 30'06 high power rifle putting it out of my misery. :darth:

    Interesting you mentioned your motherboard because I have been giving your situation a lot of thought this evening and the motherboard is the only thing I can think of. Perhaps the slot is defective especially when you rightly surmise two cards from two different companies and yet the very same issues occur.

    If you can take your ATI card and install it in another system such as a friend's PC. If it works without issue we can confirm it is not the card.
  6. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Well another thing that is weird, is that I have 2 pci slots, And I tried to plug it into the other one once and it blue screened, is there something both of the pci slots go to before getting processed that could be the problem? just thinking. Also...yes my frustration is rather high...i was pretty close to pulling an office space after it crashed when i did a fresh reinstall.
  7. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Also asking some questions on another forum and a guy said in there

    Well, there is no such thing as being a 100% sure... But I am sure that your graphics driver crashed. That is for sure. The question is.... Why. Possible reasons in order of likeliness:
    1 the driver itself, in relation to the rest of the files of the graphicscard. Problem in your case could be your many retries.... A known problem is that these drivers are not removed correctly by their normal deinstall software. Some part rmains and is not replaced by the new. Could well be the case here. That why we have additional tools to remove stuff and others to clean registry.
    2. Graphics card hardware is malfunctioning or gets too hot
    3. RAM malfunctions
    4. Mobo graphics card slot / bios settings.
    5. IRQ settings

    So I was wondering what you thought about this, particularly how the bottom 3 could effect me being as I have since decided that the top 2 are probably not the issue.

    Also another thing I keep running into, twice so far is that sometimes since the resintall It wont bsod, it will just make the sound repeating like when it bsod's but then it will just freeze until you reinstall.
  8. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    The fact that you get a BSOD in the other slot means either a) there is something wrong with the card or b) the slots in the motherboard. Check to see if your card's fan is working because if it is not it is overheating and thus crashing. But two bad cards? I find it hard to believe, as you well noted, that two different cards from two different manufactures with the same issues.

    Again, if you can, install your current video card in another system. If it works then we know the problem lies elsewhere. Ask a friend if you can. it is only temporary.
  9. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Crashed again

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  10. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Also is there a way to test / clean my slot?
  11. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Same old, same old. Do the above that I suggested and if you can borrow a card then try installing and running your system with it. That will certainly test your slots. Otherwise there really is no way of knowing.

    By the way, does your BIOS recognize your video cards?
  12. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    yes bios does read them
  13. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Hmmm, okay. seriously, try my advice about the video cards. It will show us either the cards are bad or that the issue possibly lies with your motherboard. We're doing tedious diagnostic work here. ;)
     
  14. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Alright Alright, I'll switch my graphics card out with my parents gtx 9600....sigh lol, see how that works out! lets hope for....are we hopeing for blue screen? dunno whatever I will let you know haha thanks!
  15. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Preliminary info....graphics drivers are still installing and I have yet to test/crash on this new card....however... when I first plugged in the graphics card and turned on the system, it didn't post and I sat there for a second..and was like oh! forgot to plug in 6pin power, so i turned it off and plugged it in, tried it again, waited...no post....so I unplugged that 6 pin and used a different one...and it started...so im wondering....maybe one of my 6pin pci power cables is bad? perhaps, because my 6950 uses both, so it might be starting like normal but being massively under-powered. again totaly pulling this out of my *** but w/e lol. will return with results!
  16. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    So since my last post, I tried putting that other card in, and started bopping around on starcraft and watching that 70s show trying to induce a crash, and about halfway through, instead of crashing I started getting alllll these dots on my screen, I have a screenshot here http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6520/unledhptg.png and a video of it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqRxH8T5CUI , so Just wondering if that makes your job any easier. and then I plugged in my other 2 6 pin power cables the 2 that work for sure, and started it back up with the other graphics card, and again boom crash... sigh. but this one didn't have a blue screen just froze.
  17. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    First, yes absolutely if one of the 6 pin cables is faulty your card won't function properly. If I was there I'd hook up my digital multimeter and test it. It would take all of 5 seconds.

    I am also wondering if the card itself has a defective connector.
  18. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    well no one i know has a multimeter to check =/ I dont think its the card because it didnt blue screen on my nvidia card, also i tried it with 2 seperate 6pin connectors and still no help, it blue screened today but froze when it was making the minidump so i don't have one but lately it has just been freezing instead of blue screening, any ideas? getting worn down by this whole deal
  19. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    And a tripple blue screen to end the day...

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  20. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    All three cite the same ATI driver as before.

    Now I am not saying you have a bad power supply but something that needs to be noted and that is a bad power supply can damage other hardware. Just saying; not declaring.
  21. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    well the timeline doesn't make sense, i had my old power supply and old gpu, got a NEW power supply THEN replaced the graphics card.
  22. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Then we are looking at the motherboard again. Or the power pins...
  23. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    how do i test the motherboard further? or should i rage quit ? also number 4....

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  24. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,109   +21

    Once again it is the same driver.

    Please refresh my memory. You put your card in another system and it worked, correct?
  25. Zocheyado

    Zocheyado Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 43

    yea fine, and if I put a different card that i know works into this system...it didnt crash but, weird things happened


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