My CPU wont recognize the 2GB RAM installed?

By breed_corona07
Jun 17, 2008
  1. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    This is my BIOS DRAM Settings

    Setting - Other Opts for Setting

    DRAM Clock - 133 MHz - By SPD, 133MHz, 166MHz, or 200MHz
    DRAM Timing - Auto by SPD - Auto or Manual
    DRAM CAS Latency - 2.5 - 1.5, 2, 2.5, or 3
    Bank Interleave - Disabled - Disabled, 2 Bank, or 4 Bank
    Precharched to Active - 5T - 2T, 3T, 4T, or 5T
    Trans Non-DDR400/400 - 7T/10T - 6T/8T, 7T/10T, 5T/6T, or 8T/12T
    Active to CMD Trcd - 5T - 2T, 3T, 4T, or 5T
    DRAM Burst Length - 4 - 4 or 8
    DRAM Command Rate - 2T Command - 2T Command or 1T Command

    What should they be set to
  2. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,861   +1,521

    I'm sort of curious about this setting; "Bank Interleave - Disabled - Disabled, 2 Bank, or 4 Bank". I've never seen it before. Most boards switch this automatically. We need to check the manual on this one. It seems like enabled would be right, but that's just a guess.
  3. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,183   +225

    A CMOS reset may solve this...
  4. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    how do u do the CMOS reset?
  5. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    oh, i got a reply from the dude i bought this from and he named a list of problematic situations with the sticks and my MOBO, heres wat he said

    "So first lets do process of elimination - If you know how to , Go to Bios,make
    sure Voltage is set at DEFAULT> If it does not work, then update the Bios,
    as some older Bios versions will not accept high Density memory. Then turn
    PC with old memory, then shut it down, remove old memory and put this memory
    and see what happens.

    Still does not work? OK time to check compatibility to be sure.
    We will double check for you - Can you please email us back at ...
    with info about which MOTHERBOARD or SYSTEM you are using it with.

    This is what we see in incompatible scenario
    1. DUAL Channel does not work ( 1 module works, 1 does not ). What happens,when
    you put both together, one slot kills 1 memory, so customers feel 1 is bad.
    In actuality it may be compatibility issue.

    2. It will not clock down ( All memory are back ward compatible, example
    PC400 - works as PC333--> as PC266--> ) because there is some sort of incompatibility.
    Check the chip config. to be sure.

    3. Shows up as half the value (1GB shows up as 512MB) - Here there are only
    two reason : Density is wrong/Not compatible with what you have OR Bios on
    Motherboard needs to be updated.

    The one bolded is my problem, do u guys think its jus not compatable or i jus need to update my bios, if so, how would i go about doin that, im nervous about doin it cuz ppl say you could make it to where u PC wont even boot if u mess up
  6. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,861   +1,521

    Forward into the Unknown.....

    I was really hoping we could solve this without considering the BIOS update route but perhaps not. But, you should, as Tmagic has suggested, reset the CMOS first. In your board, you should be able to remove the silver button battery, wait 5 or 10 minutes then reinstall the battery. This sets the BIOS to the factory default values. Which is where you need to be.
    Keep in mind, there is a certain amount of risk involved with a BIOS update and it is well possible to ruin the board.

    The web site is indeed MSI's but it also gives you the option of downloading and installing your update yourself. Did we read the motherboard manual from cover to cover yet? Because we really need to do so, before undertaking these procedures.

    The bottom line is this, if the memory is incompatible, a BIOS update won't solve the problem, and a BIOS update does have the potential of ruining your board.

    Reset the CMOS and get back to us.
  8. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    ok, i reset the CMOS like you said, and i not sure, i dont think it changed anything in the DRAM section, and my PC still shows 1gb ram
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,861   +1,521

    Is there any chance you can get your hands on another set of DIMMS of a different type to test ?
  10. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    i have the previous DIMMS i removed b4 i put the new ones in, one is a spectek 256mb and the other is a Samsung 256mb, but what exactly am i testing?
  11. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I got another reply from the dude i bought these from heres wat he said...

    "First of all, I am sorry, I did not get back to you earlier. It is bit crazy
    here. Let me assure you,I will give you best possible customer service.
    Now with the model number for MS-7061 , I checked it against the database
    and also went on Google to double check.

    I am sorry but the memory purchased is NOT compatible with what you have
    and need. This module has incompatibilities issues with some VIA,nforce,Asus or Intel family and some Old versions of boards where Bios cannot be updated.
    Speed,FSB,MHZ and Type of DDR is what you need BUT Type of Density you purchased is not right. High Density modules are usually half the price of regular
    memory. When they work, its great."

    i guess there jus not gonna work... lol, he told me for $15 dollars extra he would send me a set of 2x 512mb that are compatable with my MOBO, but, for the money i already paid, i already have a opperational 1GB im my PC, and for $32 he said he would send me a set of High quality (name brand) DIMMS equaling 2gb, 2x1gb.
    But i jus wanted to say thanx for all the help, captain cranky, you are like my new PC guru, all the new info i really appreciated, and yall tought me alot of new stuff so thanx again!
  12. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    if u could purchase this "for $32 he said he would send me a set of High quality (name brand) DIMMS equaling 2gb, 2x1gb." if they are dual channel it would speed u're comp. a bunch.
  13. breed_corona07

    breed_corona07 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    $32 would be a hell of a deal, but, ive already paid $44.95, for a pair of DIMMS thats half ways compatible, im already supposed to have 2gb, but apparently my PC doesnt accept high density modules, Which is wat i bought i guess, he wants me send these ones bak, give him $32 extra, and he'll send me 2x 1gb, name brand Sticks, i think im gonna do it, i jus want a faster PC
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,861   +1,521

    First, the motherboard determines whether the memory runs in dual channel, NOT the memory modules. To my knowledge many of MSI's 400 series mobos are not dual channel. I have a 410 something or other in an Emachines, and I'm pretty sure it's not DC. In most cases you need a "dual channel kit" to effect dual channel operation, but that's misleading since it's not the RAM that's actually causing the dual channel operation.

    OK, unless the BIOS update for your board SPECIFICALLY states that it cures the issue of High density RAM not being fully recognized, and you're willing to take the risk up updating your BIOS, I would trade your DIMMs for a pair of low density modules, and hopefully be done with the issue.

    You would need to thoroughly read ALL the release notes for ALL versions of your board's BIOS updates to be certain if that would cure your problem.

    Personally, I'm a huge fan of plug 'n play solutions, and I've already had a BIOS update fail and ruin a motherboard. Once bitten, twice shy, or so the story goes.
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