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My first custom build PC

By hopgop1
Jul 29, 2013
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  1. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    As this is my first custom build PC, I would like to confirm that these components are from the cheapest sources and are all compatible with each other.
    I am a PC building noob and I am following a guide (http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/step-1-materials-required/) Is this guide up to date and usable?
    I play source games and I want to be able to record sometimes and get at least 30 fps on most games, the graphics quality must be around med-high.
    My components; please tell me if I can get it cheaper somewhere else, and if they aren't compatible what do I need instead? I am building a gaming rig as cheaply as possible without getting 4fps on every game like I do on my 1.8 GHz laptop with 3gb of ram...
    Case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aerocool-Strike-X-Toolless-Tower-Gaming/dp/B00606NA0A/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1375030634&sr=1-4&keywords=pc cases
    Price: £53
    OS: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Oem-64-Bit-SP1-Operating-System-64-Bit-/190862643411?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo=SIC&its=I&itu=UCI%2BIA%2BUA%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=380651294248&ps=54
    Price: £90
    Motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/P8Z77-V-Motherboard-CrossFireX-Intelligent-Processors/dp/B007KZQE7Q/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1375033864&sr=1-2&keywords=atx motherboard
    Price: £85
    CPU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I54570-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CV3E3WK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375034385&sr=8-1&keywords=Intel Core i5-4570
    Price: £157
    RAM: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML...rmance/dp/B008E3M4TU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
    Price: £50
    PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/520535-alpine-ii-600w-b-white-psu-with-120mm-blue-fan-alpine-ii-600w-blue
    Price: £14
    Keyboard and Mouse (I have a decent mouse (Razer DeathAdder 2013) so I just need a cheap keyboard) : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Octigen-JK-...99617&sr=8-9&keywords=keyboard#productDetails
    Price: £5
    Graphics Card: http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-650-ti-1032mhz-1gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-8BP8.html?q=Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti&src=16
    Price: £105
    Thermal paste for CPU: http://www.digitaldevicesonline.co.uk/cooler-master-thermal-grease.html
    Price: £2
    Monitor (I may not need a monitor I might be able to use an old one, but if someone can find a small monitor VERY cheaply it would be greatly appreciated!): http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...050s-20-led-backlit-monitor-11925669-pdt.html
    Price: £70
    Hard Drive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-250GB-7200RPM-Internal/dp/B00134A2M8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1375101575&sr=1-1&keywords=250 gb hard drive
    Price £24
    DVD Drive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/LiteOn-IHAS120-04-AllWrite-Height-Internal/dp/B00B4SJZQW/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1375101823&sr=1-6&keywords=Internal DVD-RW
    Price: £13
    CPU Cooler: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-reference-s1156-aluminum-copper-base-heat-sink-fan-oem
    £4
    Sound Card (I'm not too bothered about sound so I went for a cheap one but it needs to be able to play game sounds atleast to an OK standard) : http://www.ebuyer.com/48180-xenta-6-channel-pci-soundcard-l-8738-6c
    Price: £4
    Not including monitor it totals around £600, I need to get it cheaper and if I can I will get like a 3gb ram kit and wait till I have more cash and get the 8gb ram kit if I need to but I would mainly like to know if I can get my ideal cheaper else where and for things like the RAM I just want 8gb, tell me if I can get a cheaper 8gb RAM kit for example.

    I appreciate this is a lot of things to go through but I really would appreciate and I heard the TechSpot community is the best around! :) and I'm sure you will exceed my expectations!
    Note: I AM A COMPLETE NOOB, I may have made a huge mistake, so don't get angry, and please spare me too much technical language!
     
  2. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    You can save a few bucks by adjusting the following:
    1. Change the case to a Corsair 200R
    2. You can save a ton of money by buying Windows 7 from Amazon.
    3. You need to get a different CPU that is compatible with that motherboard. Go with the i5 3570K.
    4. Get 2x4GB sticks of Corsair XMS3.
    5. You need to change the PSU. The PSU is the most important component and you cannot cheap out on it. We will determine the PSU you need after we decide on a GPU.
    6. Dont bother with that monitor. Save up for a 1080P monitor and wait for deals.
    7. The GPU is fine. But I need to know what games you will be playing and at what resolution. This card may be lacking if you play high end games.
    8. You do not need thermal paste. Just get a Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler which comes with thermal paste.
    9. Get this HDD if you can: WD Caviar Blue 1TB. If you cannot fit it into the budget, lower the HDD to a WD Green, but performance will suffer.
    10. Ignore the sound card. It is not important since integrated sound is enough.

    My suggestion is to build a PC based on AMD since they generally are more budget oriented. I need to know some info first. What games will you be playing and at what resolution (of the old monitor or monitor you will be using)?
     
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  3. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Addict Posts: 891   +171

    I'd go as far as omitting a aftermarket CPU cooler all together. That money can definitely be used elsewhere in this build IE GPU or PSU. If he's not overclocking a stock cooler will work just fine.

    As for JC713's suggestion to switch to AMD I'd definitely second that. It will allow you more money to put towards your other components without sacrificing much performance.
     
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  4. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    I think a AMD Athlon X4 740 will fit the build well. If he is not gonna overclock, this is a great locked CPU that will operate cooler than a FX.
     
  5. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Addict Posts: 891   +171

    Would definitely free up some room in the budget for something like a GTX 660
     
  6. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    I am sticking with Intel and I am not into overclocking.
     
  7. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    Noob question but will the CPU come with a stock cooler? If so will it be enough to stop me needing an aftermarket one?
     
  8. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    I am going to go with the Corsair 200R case, getting Windows 7 from Amazon, I'm getting the i5 3570K, getting the Corsair XMS3 RAM, I am sticking with the Intel based build as that's what I feel is best for me and also I am not into overclocking or anything like that, I like my computers stable.
    I will wait to get that monitor and the old monitor I have spare is 640 x 480 with a 4:3 aspect ratio.
    I am also getting the CPU cooler (IF I need it) you suggested and the HDD.
    Also tend to play Source games like, HL2, Garry's Mod, CS:S, some RPG games and Arma 2 but with Arma I know that's a high end game so I am not too bothered about playing it at, just so long as it runs on minimum graphics settings.
    Side note: I have plenty of time to decide what I am getting, I don't plan to order till October so you guys have plenty of time to help me :)
     
  9. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,141   +1,530

    All boxed CPU's come with a stock cooler. If you purchase an OEM CPU chances are it will not be bundled with a cooler. The stock cooler would be all you need, because you are not planning on over-clocking
     
  10. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    Thanks, my CPU comes with a cooler! Didn't even know that!
     
  11. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    I will try to fit in Intel, but all the prices are higher in Europe, so it will be hard. I will get a cart going on amazon.co.uk and I will screenshot it.
     
  12. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    Intel Build - I can chose a lower end CPU, but performance will suffer.
    Intel.png
    AMD Build - This is much more favorable since you have little room in the Intel build for a good GPU.
    AMD.png
    The verdict on which build to chose matters on what games you will play and at what resolution?
     
  13. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    Sorry, I'm a little confused, whats a GPU I thought that was the same as a graphics card?
    Also why is Intel generally regarded better than AMD?
    And these posts are taking forever to be approved by a moderator, I have 2 still waiting so the posts are kinda disjointed for me.
    Also with the build I suggested first with the improved parts you suggested, would that be all I needed?
     
  14. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    GPU is the same thing as graphics card. AMD is not regarded better than Intel, but it is much more budget friendly. You do not want a i5 + a crappy GPU. A 6 core AMD will perform slightly less than the i5, but you can get a higher end GPU with the savings. The motherboard are also much cheaper on the AMD side vs Intel. My new build is much better.
     
  15. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,473   +622

    Go AMD, pump more money in GPU. You said you're after a gaming rig, so... build it like one.
     
  16. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    But surely it would make more sense to go with the Intel and then when I have more money (e.g. After Christmas) buy a better GPU and the current one?
     
  17. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TS Addict Posts: 891   +171


    Which is your priority? You insisted you wanted to make a gaming machine. And, to do that with your budget as is, you're best bet would be going AMD. If you're not concerned with gaming until after christmas then by all means go with intel.
     
  18. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,473   +622

    So you're saying you'll somehow have enough money to totally replace the GPU, and then attempt to sell it or something? Your financial planning needs some work, but this is not the forum for that.

    Options:
    1. Go Intel now, upgrade GPU later, wasting money.
    2. Go AMD now, getting better performance now. Upgrade entire system a while later.
     
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  19. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    Hoah!

    An AMD 8350 is actually a great choice if you play highly demanding games that take advantage of more than 1 core. With the PS4s release, games (like Planetside 2 in particular) will go from a single core optimized game, to a multi-core optimized game. This may favor AMD.
     
  20. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    Thanks for the answers guys, also is the guide I plan to follow OK to use? (I linked it in the original post).
     
  21. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    That guide is overly indepth. If you want to use it, be my guest.

    I think you should follow this video instead:


    Or these videos (more in depth) - I recommend these:
    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
     
  22. hopgop1

    hopgop1 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 192   +22

    Thanks JC, I have decided to go with this GPU and this PSU, will the PSU be good enough to support the build or will I have to up the wattage?
     
  23. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,035   +914

    The 650Ti requires at least 400W to run, so you are fine, but you have very little breathing room.

    I think you should get a GTX 650Ti boost + 550W XFX PSU.

    What are all the parts you have decided on other than the GPU and PSU?
     


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