Need a budget gaming pc

with crysis warhead i get 55 fps at 1920x1080 on all enthusiast settings, with fallout 3 its 80, and fear two is over 200 i think.

Try this alternate build:

• AMD Phenom II X2 550 3.1GHz 6MB L3 Cache Black Edition CPU - Retail - $108.99 + free shipping
• Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 uATX AMD 740G Motherboard - Retail - $53.99 + free shipping
• OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066MHz Dual-Channel Kit - Retail - $47.99 + free shipping
• HIS Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Retail - $129.99 + free shipping
• Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB SATA 7200RPM HDD - OEM - $58.89 + free shipping
• NZXT Beta Series CS-NT-BETA-B Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $49.99 ($39.99 after $10 rebate) + free shipping
• Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W PSU with Active PFC - Retail - $97.99 ($87.99 after $10 rebate) + free shipping

Grand Total = $550 approximately, not including rebates. Shipping is free on all items.

That looks good and all but with red's build i could afford a 100$ screen so i don't know. Maybe if you can make a build under 450?

Also good for the extra eye candy, in which everyone likes.

have you considered going through dell? might want to take a look at their small
buisness machines, the Vostro 420 tower, has the g45 express northbridge which
supports 1066 ddr 3 but comes stock with 800 DDR2 ram, but can be upgraded i suppose.
also its southbridge, i didn't ask them but stock comes with pci-e 2.0 video cards, you can
upgrade that in the future.. and can be built for cheap. check it out under small buisness
pc's.

EDIT: i would seriously wait for the I7 cores to cheapen up a little, the 3 channel ram is so sweet

If he spends 450 with dell he's getting a crap machine for gaming either way, definately not a good suggestion.

He should not be concerned with i7 builds, they are overkill for games.

super smash, that is quite a rude statement, the guy is asking what an optical drive is, and your gonna
knock a pre-assembled pc that is intel based with a dual core proccessor (2.8ghz) with the not to old standard 800mhz ram. (upgradeble to 1066 ddr3) do you know the chipset dell is using on the vostro 420's? it boast the same single pci-e 2.0 slot as some of these AMD boards posted. and god knows if this guy wants to glue the heatsink to the processor. my 'ol hotrod has a x1600pro ati AGP 8x card 3.06 ghz pent 4 533 FSB and still rocks at any games i throw at it, including assassins creed. i would however build my own pc, and not request anything other than ram timimgs and mobo compatibility from any forum. but don't knock simplicity when you cannot offer anything but insults. then again throw some more out there what do i care.

Given your post, clearly you do

I don't think supersmashbrada was directly insulting you, he just gave reason to correct your statement. I do agree with him on this one also. You will pay a lot more to get Dell to build you something and slap their logo on it, then you would if you just built it yourself. This member is trying to save money. As for them not being knowledgeable enough, that's not really our concern as they may have a friend/local technician build it for them if they are overwhelmed.

Well this topic ended up weird. Haha well building the pc seems easy enough. I really don't want a pre-built one as they seem to have bad specs. But what i am asking though is to make a build with 450 so i can have enough money to afford a decent monitor.

Well you have two suggestions from Red and Rage. I'm not one to offer prices on hardware as all our prices are at least double what you can get in America

I could only dream of building a machine for $450, thats the price of a decent motherboard here

Yea reds suggestion is pretty much final. But i am willing to see if any of you can make it any cheaper .

I agree with Snowchick here, $450 for a gaming machine is a tall order, knock anything else off and your getting into components that you don't want to mess with (see rage's comment about Elite Group and the badger) :haha:
you could go with the amd 7750be or the 7850 like i suggested in my original post, but beyond that, i feel like i would be steering you into an risky build.

I guess ill go with your suggestion red.

i believe you will be pleased with it Tech

hell i'd say go on craigslist or ebay, even tho you can't guarantee the life time, i would stay away from
any AMD except maybe the phenom black. still i'd go with intel. but your looking for cheap, and this
thread shouldn't divert into intel vs amd on gaming should it? i haven't checked tom's hardware in a while.
or that nvidia's higher tier has the upperhand vs ATI >.<

and that ladies and gentleman, is ignorance at its most obvious.

yeah but how much of what i said holds truth? are you being an *** and cannot state that AMD holds weight over Intel? or that Nvidia's top gear beats ATI?
or are you poking stupid statements at the fact that i clearly admit i haven't done any research. what a fool you are.

ummmm...none of it,
first of all if amd is to be stayed away from, then you should also stay away from the black edition...right? secondly phenom's were the ones to stay away from, if you haven't noticed....and weren't such a fanboy, amd has a very competitive and quality product that competes with intel, particularly in gaming in the phenomII. thirdly, maybe you should check with Tom's hardware and read up. fourthly, Tech does not have an unlimited budget and is asking for (obviously) the maximum performance per dollar, and that's exactly what he got in the suggestions he received....other than yours

holds wieght??? what the hell are you talikng about? yes i7 is the king of processors , but so what? most of us live in a value market and just because i7 is the top in no way shape or form has anything to do with the fact that amd has great value processors out there that offer the better value.

idunno,

You have made a remarkable introduction for yourself with only 10 posts.

AMD are definitely a better option for gamers on a budget, esp the newer ones as they were designed for lower spec/price motherboards.

I'd recommend doing a bit of research before sharing your suggestions, as this forum was designed to help people. Not have 'matter of opinion, based on my experience' wars

wow, lol.

NOOB!!!