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Need Assistance with: budget gaming PC + Case Help

By HeadFonez
Feb 20, 2010
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  1. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,048   +75

    Hi Rit: just a suggestion, do you think if PII X550 BE is replaced with Athlon II X3 435 (Rana) and switching to Radeon 5770; it may be a better overall option?

    And HeadFonez, if you can get sizeable discount, you may consider getting Radeon 5770 instead (by spending the money you may save ;) disregarding my above comment).

    Edit:
    I also found this AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor for about the same price as your original suggestion.
  2. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    It's difficult to predict Archean. My preference would be with the Phenom II 550 for gaming. The X4 620 Propus performs pretty well too according to a review on Techspot.

    Now if the video card is changed to the HD 5770, the performance would definitely be slightly superior.
  3. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    the difference between the x3 550 and the x2 555 is that the 550 is revision C-2 stepping and the 555 is revision C-3. this possibly could make it a better overclocker.
  4. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,048   +75

    Thats fair enough; but IMHO X4 620 will be much better keeping in view that we are heading for multi-threaded future, even right now games pretty evenly divided with regard to which favor higher clock speed and favoring multicore cpus.Other then this its an excellent build in the given budget constraints. :)
  5. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    and the X4 6XX's seem to do well in applications despite the absents of any L3 cache. they do however take a bit of a hit in gaming because of it.

    EDIT: wait a minute....if you are going to spend $100.00 you might check this out for $4 more. this will beat both of them in gaming and puts 3 cores at your disposal. it will OC from 3.6-3.9Ghz (i have mine at 3.9ghz)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652
  6. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,048   +75

    It takes hit in games which favor higher clock speeds, as I pointed out earlier, however, in multi-threaded games its performs reasonably well.


    That will be 9$ difference; but yes I totally agree it seems to be much better choice ;) Good work
  7. BillAllen55

    BillAllen55 TS Maniac Posts: 421

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  8. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Thought about that one Greg. But it's going to set the OP back a few bucks since he'll have to purchase an aftermarket cooler. :)
  9. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    oh yes, better add $35 to go that route, good catch Rit :)
  10. HeadFonez

    HeadFonez TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 56

    Red, I am trying to make parts cost Less than 100$ ea., also If I could get a better card i wouldn't get a 5770 :3 I would get a 260 GTX, You can keep saying "get a 57701!1!11!!" but 9800GT is fine, i can run Crysis pretty well! :3 Also, I'd rather not buy OEM. Thanks Bill but New Egg is not for me :3, I am going with the system I listed with and the Opitarc ODD and the Corsair 400W PSU. Thanks for all help.
  11. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    ....ummm, I have not mentioned the 5770 anywhere in this thread.
     
  12. BillAllen55

    BillAllen55 TS Maniac Posts: 421

  13. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Where did that come from? I was the one who recommended the HD 5750 or, if budget did not permit, the HD 4850. Both would provide better performance than the 9800GT.

    Not that the 9800GT is a bad card. I own one myself and have been happy with it's performance.

    No one's forcing you to get anything. It's ad-hoc comments like these that leave a bad taste with those trying to help you.
  14. HeadFonez

    HeadFonez TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 56

    I was talking about Archean, I talk to people in a whole not really directly, if I say I talking to you i would usually put it in 1 sentence.

    Archean Said Get a Radeon 5770 Twice.

    I was aiming for a Good Card That Could Play like Crysis on Medium for like 100$-115$. I would upgrade in the future.
  15. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,048   +75

    I think you are referring to this post, now, I'd ask you to re-read it once again; as my 1st Question was aimed at Rit; to which he prudently replied in his next post.

    Only in the second sentence I said you may consider getting Radeon 5770 . Also, as Rit very rightfully pointed out that no one can force you to buy anything; hence, what we say is just advice nothing more nothing less. Its your choice wholly and fully, period.
  16. HeadFonez

    HeadFonez TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 56

    Only help needed is with this stuff fit, I am getting agitated because no one answered my question and I kinda feel like you guys are just like high fives like you accomplished something lawl, go back and do the barrel roll ._. . Also is the 9800Gt good enough for 110-120$ graphics card even though it is less?
  17. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    The HD 4850 sells for a similar price as the 9800GT and is a better performer.
  18. HeadFonez

    HeadFonez TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 56

  19. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Either would do fine but my preference lies with XFX.
  20. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    I will second that, take note of the warranty info on the XFX vs the HIS.
  21. HeadFonez

    HeadFonez TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 56

    Wait but it can't fun DX 11 Games? what are DX 11 games? :3
  22. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    There are very few games that use DX11 right now. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Call of Pripyat is one such game. However, they all will run fine on DX9 / DX10.
  23. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    DX 11 is the newest version of microsoft application programming interfaces. in short DX11 brings greater detail and more realism to its generation of multimedia applications (particularly gaming) there are only a handful of DX11 games out currently, however there will be more and more in the coming year. the HD 4850 is capable of running up to DX 10.1, so if DX11 is important to you, you want to be looking at the ATI 5xxx series or the upcoming Nvidia GTX 4xx series.
  24. HeadFonez

    HeadFonez TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 56

    If I am using : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...n&AID=10446076&PID=3675192&SID=skim951X490024

    I need a different PSU, can anyone find a good one that is like Similar to the Corsair (500W and not too costy)

    After that I just need to know if it all fits.

    Actually I am staying with 9800 GT my friend says this:

    cost doent matter
    (4:47:22 PM): and also
    (4:47:27 PM): even though they preform well
    (4:47:35 PM): gaming is much smoother on an nvidia card

    :3, so all i really need to know is if it will fit together, and if anything needs to really be upgraded for around same price. :3
  25. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,894   +88

    unfortunately, your friend is either woefully uninformed....or a fanboi

    just a few of the many reviews that all reach the same conclusion.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/ati-radeon-hd4800-games_3.html#sect1
    http://www.techspot.com/review/103-asus-radeon-4850/
    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2320904,00.asp
    http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/visionhd4850/
    http://www.bit-tech.net/custompc/reviews/602844/ati-radeon-hd-4850.html

    there is no difference in the rendering qualities of an nvidia card and an ATI card. it comes down to FPS and features.
    this is why people come to TS for advice, so they don't have to listen to their 'friends' uninformed opinions.
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