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Need some advice on my first build.

Discussion in 'Overclocking, Cooling and Modding' started by Beaver Slayer, Oct 15, 2005.

  1. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    Alright, I'll get a floppy, after all, I'm like $20 underbudget, and thats about how much a floppy costs.

    Do I still need the SATA controlers even If I only have 1 hard drive?

    No, wait SATA isn't the 2 hard drives thing is it? What is it then?

    So tack another $20 and this onto my specs.
  2. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,897   +75

    Well, you are buying a SATA HD so you have to connect it to a SATA controller. RAID is the "two hard drives thing" if I understand you correctly.

    You can get a good floppy drive for half that. Look here for example: Newegg
    That's not even the cheapest one. It wouldn't hurt to check the prices of the rest of your items too. ZipZoomFly.com is another good outfit.
  3. vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    One more thought, you might be able to save $25 dollars if you went with an oem version 3200+, as they're only $133, but you'd have to buy a heatsink, which'd add $40 to that, but that's still only $175 total, so you'd save $25.
    The oem has no heatsink, and a shorter warranty, but is much cheaper. Also, since you'd be getting a good cooler, it would possibly overclock better, if you're going to overclock.
    Cpu
    http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=A64-3200BW
    Heatsink
    http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-7700CU
  4. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    I dont supose my mobo has intigrated SATA controllers does it? It looks like it might but I'm not sure.

    nf4, do you have experience with the seller you linked to?

    And ya, I'm definitly going to price check before I order, those where just guesses.
  5. vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    I've not purchased from ewiz, but I checked resellerratings.com and it seemed to be rated pretty good(except for returns). The overall rating is good.
    http://www.resellerratings.com/seller5721.html

    The neo 4-f has 4 sata(150mb/s) ports on board, so it supports 4 sata drives each at up to 150mb/s.
    http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=652

    If you want to find the best prices on the parts try pricegrabber.com, but check a place's ratings before you buy from them.
  6. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    Ok, so I'm going with everything as listed previously (with the floppy drive) exept no sound card, my mobo has intigrated sound and that will probobly be enough for me as I don't pay much attention to sound.

    If all goes well and nothing new comes up I will be ordering tomorrow.

    And I've decided the $25 savings isn't enough to make me go with a seller I've never heard of, I guess I'm just paranoid.
     
  7. vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    It probably is a good idea to stick with one vendor(that's reputable) for your build, it will be much simpler. I've had good experiences with newegg.com, but have also heard good of zipzoomfly, mwave, chiefvalue, xoxide, etc. There are many decent stores.

    Best wishes on your build.
  8. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    Ok, I got all my parts in and the build went wonderful, no BSOD, nothing. Then when I tried to play battlefield 2 I realized I had no sound. Now, I didn't get a sound card and I have yet to conect the front sound connection thing, but my MoBo manuall says that shouldn't matter as long as some pins on the connectors are jumped (which they are) I have the newest BIOS and drivers, what could my problem be?

    Ninja Edit: Sorry, Aparently I DIDn't install the latest drivers, all is well. (And it sounds GREAT)

    one last thing, I have Windows XP installed, but there is a problem, I thought I had a COA but I don't is their some way I can just get the COA (legaly)?
  9. vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

  10. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    No, I don't HAVE a key right now, I'm running it on some sort of 30 day trial. What I mean is, is their any way to just get a key? I have an old OEM disk but it's key is already in use.
  11. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,897   +75

    If the product key is already in use, then there is no legal way for you to use that CD in another machine.
  12. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    using xp on more than one computer is a violation of the user agreement and stealing.
    PIracy is not tolerated here.
  13. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    I'm not articulating myself very well today, I'm trying to say that I already have the OS, but not an unused key, and since it's two hours to the nearest Tech store and I don't want to wait to a disk to be delivered, is their any way to purchase a COA code from microsoft without purchasing the disk?

    Edit for understanding: Wait, so even though I'm trying to purchase another key, it's illegal to use the OEM disk, even for the 30 day period it gives me to enter the product key? If so could someone explain to me how to uninstall an OS?
  14. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,897   +75

    Yeah, although you characterized it earlier as a trial period, there's no such thing. That's just the time that you are allowed to activate Windows XP. The OEM version is tied to the original machine it is installed in. According to Microsoft, it cannot be transferred to another machine even if the original machine is no longer in use. You would have to purchase a full retail version to do that. That is a key difference between OEM and retail, not just the price, manuals and packaging.

    I'm not a authority on this subject so I don't know what would happen if you purchased your own OEM XP CD and just tried to use the key on your existing installation or if you have to use the key with the cd it came with. It would probably be best if you reformatted and reinstalled a legit copy (your own, that is) of Windows. BTW, I'm quite sure you can't legally buy a COA separately.
  15. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    God I'm Stupid.

    I guess the Ironic thing here is that an aquaintance of my kept trying to get me to get a crack of windows, and I said no because I didn't want to break copywrite law and then ended up (unwittingly) breaking it another way.

    I'm going to reformat here in a second (as soon as I figure out how). Thanks for walking retarded little me though that.
  16. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,897   +75

    No problem. I give you credit for trying to do the right thing.

    Of course, if you reformat without an OS to install, you won't have a usable computer. Do you have a new one now?
  17. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    nope.... you'll need the cd
  18. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    No, The only OS I have thats not in use is an old win 98 deep deep in the recesses of my tech cabenent.

    Also, could someone walk me through reformating? The only tutorials I could find all invove floppys, and I really don't want to improvise when my $1000 PC is on the line.
  19. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,897   +75

    I thought you said you were going to get a floppy with your new system. Change your mind?
  20. Beaver Slayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 58

    Ya, the only reason (that I knew of at the time) to have one was for drivers, and I have a PC that does have a floppy, so I was just going to use that macine to burn any floppys I needed to disk.

    Iis it posible to use that bootdisk thing on a cd?