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Networking Vista and XP = bleh

By needhelpinnz
Jun 5, 2008
  1. So I have a desktop XP Home SP2 and a Vista laptop that I'm trying to transfer files between. Setup the workgroup name to be the same, gave each computer individual names, enabled file sharing, plugged them in, restarted, but still nothing.

    On the XP machine, it will say "acquiring network address" and it sits there for a while until it tells me there is limited or no connectivity. the lights on the back are also just orange, no green, whereas my laptop LAN port has both green and orange lights, even though both computers say limited or no connectivity.

    I'm pretty new with all this network stuff and tried following a few guides online to get these two to talk to each other, but just can't get past this. any help would be appreciated. thanks.

    A few questions I found from some other posts that I thought might help if answered:

    Just connecting the two computers directly without a router or hub, not sure if the cable I have is crossover or not. Is there a way to tell?

    Do you have DSL or Cable Modem? Neither
    Do you have Router? No
    Do you have a switch or hub? No
    Do you have crossover cables? Not sure

    How do you have your network setup? Desktop ethernet connected to laptop ethernet
    Are you using wireless laptop? has the ability but I disabled it
    Are you using wired or wireless desktop? wired
     
  2. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I'd say you don't

    All supplied Ethernat cables (with modems and computers etc are Patch)

    To see if you do:

    Hold both ends up, side by side, facing the same way (basically exactly the same way)
    Looking at the tiny internal cable colors, all the colors will be in the exact same sequence - that's a patch
    But if two of the colored wires are reversed (or not in sequence basically) it's a crossover

    That's the easiest way to tell.

    Anyway please buy a Cross-Over Ethernet cable
     
  3. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,469   +327

    direct attachment using ICS looks like
    Code:
    modem---systemA----systemB
    yes it;s cheap. it also is a poor performer AND requires both system running if systemB is to have Internet access.
    you would be much happier with a router (not a hub, not a switch) like this
    Code:
    modem ---- router
                   |
                   +---- systemA
                   |
                   +---- systemB
    Either system is Independent of the other for Internet access and both are necessary
    only for Print/File sharing
     
  4. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Yes that uses patch
    But you could use a hub too? Not sure why not.

    Anyway, to just do one job of linking computers via Ethernet, is by cross-over
    I have this 20Mtr one, that I use probably once a year!
     
  5. needhelpinnz

    needhelpinnz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 68

    for anyone needing help (since I know sometime I get upset when people don't post how things went in their threads), the problem did turn out to be the crossover cable. once I got that, i was able to transfer files.

    thanks to you guy for giving me a hand
     
  6. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Thanks for the update
    Yes it is nice to know what the ending result was, thank-you :)
     
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