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New ATM skimmers that sit inside the card slot are virtually impossible to detect

By Shawn Knight
Jul 7, 2014
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  1. Skimmers have been used by crooks for years to steal credit and debit card information during ATM transactions. The devices have traditionally been somewhat easy to spot given their sheer size but as technology advances and electronics get smaller, so...

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  2. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,154   +1,429

    If you put your card into an ATM hole that looked like a vagina, and suddenly all your money is gone - then you are probably better off.

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    And stay away from lodgement machines that look like this:
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    Imagine you go to the forest to pick up some wood, and on your way back you find the world overrun by strange machines? Life can be confusing sometimes...
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    In the meantime, the smartest guys swap everything they have, even their teeth - all for Bitcoins...
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    Now they don't need ATM, and their future is totally secure!
     
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  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,702   +1,886

    At some point, isn't it incumbent on the ATM owner/operators, to develop and install sensing solutions, to find and disable these skimmers?. Or at the very least, shut down the terminal until the offending device can be removed.

    All digital electronics act as transmitters in a limited capacity, are you trying to tell me they can't find something a quarter inch away?

    I mean really, the banks can only play so stupid, for so long, before this comes back to haunt them.
     
  4. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,154   +1,429

    Most of existing ATM-s were designed as non-upgradable. The majority at the moment are running a form of ancient Windows, from Windows Me to Windows XP. They can only be replaced with brand new machines, ones that also do not guarantee any form of upgrades, because their installers are only interested in maximizing profit from repairs and complete re-installations. It is a totally exclusive, sick and twisted market, just like military contracts.
     
  5. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,555   +2,361

    I've never met a man who did what you've described, only to lose half of everything, reflect on the episode positively. Double if it happened in California. Simply put, nothing good comes from putting your card in an ATM sold without a warrantee.
     
  6. Pin number???
    Really???
     
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,702   +1,886

    So what you're saying is we'd all be better off getting a pre-nup before using your local ATM? I wonder if you could clear up something for me. I thought if you put anything into something that looked like a vagina, then eventually all your money would be gone......:oops:

    With that said, I know what I must do to insure my future happiness!

    I'm going right out a buying a blow up ATM machine to keep me company, and order another box of checks to bank with....!
     
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  8. insect

    insect TS Evangelist Posts: 315   +114

    How about no more cash? I avoid cash - too easy to lose, too hard to return stuff, etc. I keep just enough for random girl scout cookie stand or at-work buy-in pot. Everybody else takes credit now.
     
  9. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,556   +2,899

    If I walk into a "brick and mortar" store that doesn't take cash, I will turn around and walk out. I should get a shirt that says, "No Cash, No Business!".
     
  10. insect

    insect TS Evangelist Posts: 315   +114

    You're losing money then. Provided you stay to a budget, credit card rewards earn you stuff cash can't. Pay before 30-days and no interest is charged to your credit cards plus you get the miles/cash back/etc. just for using the card.
     
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,556   +2,899

    LOL - credit card rewards! Rewards that never surpass the interest paid in. Damn you fell for one of the biggest shams of owning a credit card.
     
  12. If you pay interest on a credit card you are doing it wrong. had my cards for 10 years never paid interest and they pay me to use them.
     
  13. insect

    insect TS Evangelist Posts: 315   +114

    ^ This. As I said in my post, if you pay them off before 30-days, you don't pay interest. Just use your money wisely.
     
  14. Did you really just say that credit cards that charge %30 interest and a annual fee are better than cash?

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    insect said:


    If I walk into a "brick and mortar" store that doesn't take cash, I will turn around and walk out. I should get a shirt that says, "No Cash, No Business!".
    You're losing money then. Provided you stay to a budget, credit card rewards earn you stuff cash can't. Pay before 30-days and no interest is charged to your credit cards plus you get the miles/cash back/etc. just for using the card.

    "
     
  15. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,979   +362

    Rest assured, no one said that. No mention was made of 30% interest and you were the only one to bring up an annual fee.

    Regardless of the nominal interest rate of a given credit card, what insect was saying was if you pay off the full balance before the due date (most cards), you pay no interest. In the USA it's not difficult to find a credit card that does not charge an annual fee. I have several credit cards (Visa, Mastercard, Amex and Discover) and none of them charge annual fees. If any of them starts charging annual fees, I close the account.

    @cliffordcooley no one said anything about stores not taking cash. Insect only said they all take credit cards (too) so even at his favorite stores I'm sure you are free to use cash if you wish. Anyway, what brick and mortar store wouldn't take cash?

    Credit cards can be a tremendous convenience and, of course, you can get into trouble by overspending (even without credit cards) but if you can manage your spending and stay within your means, using a cash back type credit card is fine, IMHO. Surely, most of TechSpot's members here are smart enough and have enough self restraint to use credit cards to their advantage. But if not or you simply prefer not to, you don't have to if you don't want to. If you prefer cash (or check or debit), by all means stick to it.
     
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  16. I'm not convinced that the banks aren't behind all this. I know very little about how banks work but it makes me wonder if they are raking in huge amounts in insurance payouts when a 'fraud' is committed! With all the so called technology we have, how on earth are the banks not on top of this by now? In my personal experience, and working in IT, I have never come across one instance of card fraud which has been committed over the Internet. It has all originated from ATM/Chip & PIN usage! It all smells a bit fishy to me!

    At one point, I noticed very small amounts being taken from my business account. Although the bank would not comment, I'm convinced that was an inside job and probably a very lucrative one. It may be different for others but in my experience, when I have asked the banks to keep me informed of the investigation and result, I have been met with a wall of silence? Silence in these cases makes me highly suspicious and speaks loudly of cover up!
     
  17. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,702   +1,886

    A scam resembling this hit the evening news a while back. I forget the actual amount that was being taken, certainly under 10 bucks, but it was hitting a lot of people's accounts.
     

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