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New hardware required to fix Haswell USB 3.0 connection bug

By Shawn Knight
Mar 11, 2013
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  1. A few weeks ago we learned that Intel’s upcoming Haswell platform was plagued with an annoying USB 3.0 bug. The chip maker didn’t immediately fess up to the issue but we’ve since heard that it is indeed a real cause...

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  2. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,982   +909

    Good to hear they are on the job. But dang, I feel bad for whoever gets a faulty board.
     
  3. treeski

    treeski TS Guru Posts: 877   +130

    It's annoying, but it wouldn't prevent me from picking up a new computer/motherboard or anything.
     
  4. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,498   +306

    Well no, the entire point of the article was to point out it needs a hardware fix and not a software one?

    Anyway,
    Yeah, I still plan on getting this at launch as well, I rarely use S3 sleep anyway and if I do, everything I have is USB3 and I don't use external drives making this even less annoying for me.
     
  5. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,982   +909

    Yeah, but I still dont see why this cant be fixed without a firmware update.
     
  6. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,498   +306

    Meh, we'll leave the Intel Engineers to decide on that one xD
    From what I gather though, it sounds more like an architecture flaw and since they've already started production on the chipsets, they will simply fix it in a future hardware revision, a firmware upgrade cannot fix a physical issue. :/
     
  7. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,982   +909

    Yeah, true.
     
  8. hood6558

    hood6558 TS Booster Posts: 292   +44

    I never use sleep states, and anyway my Ivy Bridge Z77 board does the same thing (drops USB 3.0 drive after idle periods) as do many other configurations, so it's nothing new or serious - just another FUBARed release from Intel. I'm sure they have a few extra billion stashed away for these all too frequent contingencies. Except this time they're not recalling the chips, so it will only cost them the price of launching a new chipset, not buying back any bad hardware. It will inevitably slow Haswell sales at launch, since few will have forgotten the last fiasco. Maybe they'll all wait for Broadwell and just pass on Haswell. This is bad news...
     
  9. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 3,087   +747

    +1 I don't use S3 sleep anyway so it's a non issue for me.
     
  10. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,286   +232

    As others have noted, S3 sleep in desktops seems rather unused, so Intel shouldn't have too much of a fiasco if that is the only function involved in this bug. That said, I'm assuming this issue will not plague notebooks or mobile platforms? I could see where it would be a potential disaster to have a sleep state bug in that arena.
     
  11. This is the problem. They know there is a problem but are going ahead with the release anyway. This is saying if you don't like it don't buy or if you bought it sue us to meke us recall it. AMD is not a competision anymore so we can do as we please. Sue us or buy amd if you don't like. Hope they loose more then a billion. At least a good amout that will hurt. I am getting tired of crap releases for they are rushed to production and out the door for top dollars. I rather wait and get a good product that will last me. My uncle by a computer for $2 on garage sale. This thing is from like 2000. It still works. Not a problem with it. It has the original hard drive. This is a 13 year old system. My mac book pro is on the secon logic board and the video is failing on the second logic board. The hard drive crashed on light use after 1.5 years. I am on the second hard drive. The drive was a toshiba. I gat a hitachy in there currently. As far as the hard drive we are talking about catastrofic faliure where the hard drive wont even boot. I recently used it as a time machine drive the drive backed up and them lost large chunks of the data. About %10 was usable and had to wait for long periods of recovery. The drive out of the $2 machine has 0 errors. Strange ha. And mind you that I have a 250 gig hard drive in that machine. The mac book has a 750 drive and 2.5 inch. So we may look at 5 to 7 times the arial density. But I am willing to bet that the Hitachy drive which was manufactured by Japan and not Tai Land will last longer. I am in a way glad that Tai land got fluded. That was just the computer god puting an end to crappy products. I guess there is a god. We may pay more for hard drives but will only have to buy once or twice every 10 years as versus every year.
     
     
  12. treeski

    treeski TS Guru Posts: 877   +130

    It's annoying that they didn't catch the bug, but considering the bug is more annoying than anything else, I think people would be much more put off if they didn't release Haswell asap. It's a very anticipated CPU release.
     


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