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New PC build (gaming)

By ramonsterns
Nov 27, 2010
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  1. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,833   +925

    That really isn't true in the US. The CM Hyper 212 has been a promotional football, with prices descending to as low as $15.00 USD.

    After a slew of good reviews, Newegg tried to extort $59.95 for it, but Microcenter's price remained at $24.95, on a walk in basis.

    In a minor thread hijack, I would like people's thoughts about the backplates on these heavy coolers. On my Gigabyte H-55 board, the Hyper 212's backplate covers two solder points. I appreciate that there is insulation on the plate, but I wonder if over time, and heating and cooling cycles, the clamping pressure will force the solder tabs though it, and cause a short....?
     
  2. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +25

    Possible, but unlikely, from experience. To be on the safe side however, I'd just use some cheap electrical tape to insulate the contacts from the backplate.
     
  3. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,376   +127

    Huh?
    I'm on XP and I just changed my my documents path to my I: drive, everything else went with it, including game saves and media.
     
  4. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    The 212 is actually $15 after MIR
     
  5. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

    I didn't want to say XP in case I was wrong. I'm not entirely sure (you can confirm if you like?), but I thought you could move everything to one location, but not seperate target locations for each folder. e.g. you could move My Documents but not My Desktop's target folder. Am I right, or am I wrong? :haha:

    But I know for Vista/7 you can move each individual folder target location from within your home directory - I've been doing it since fitting my SSD, to save cluttered it all up, as I'm really bad for that! :haha:
     
  6. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,376   +127

  7. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

    Ahh, are those Music/Pictures etc folders inside "My Documents" or separate to it?

    As I understood it (it was a long time ago!) you could move only the whole lot to one directory, and not specify different targets for each media folder.
     
  8. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,376   +127

    Oh, they're inside, I guess you can't separate them.
     
  9. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

  10. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +25

    @ramonsterns, I think the MIR was just added, 'cause I didn't see it there yesterday.

    Regardless, it's your choice, but if you can fit it into your budget, the Gaia is the better choice, performance-wise.
     
  11. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    I know this isn't hardware related, but what is the best Anti-virus out there?

    I mean that they won't charge me extra to get rid of a virus that got past their program. My father likes using Norton, much to my dismay, and it was doing its job until a few months ago when I got a real nasty redirect virus.

    Norton couldn't clean it up and they wanted my to fork over $100 to let one of their technicians off in India wander about my computer and then gave me NO GUARANTEE it would stay clean. Pissed me off so badly I told them to cram my subscription and their technicians up where the sun doesn't shine.

    Then I came here and a week later the problem was resolved with the help of a kind soul in the Virus subforum.
     
     
  12. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

    I would recommend either Microsoft Security Essentials (free), AVG 2011 free edition, or Trend Micro Titanium 2011. Information I posted on how all three of these performed can be read here.

    But in brief, Trend won the test (and got a Best Buy recommendation), AVG 2011 free edition came second (and costs nothing), and MSE came in at around midway of the 14 AV's tested.
     
  13. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    Awesome, thanks.
     
  14. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +25

    BitDefender, NOD32 (which is what I use) and Kaspersky are the best AV programs, IMHO. Also, I find AV Comparatives to be a reliable and regularly-updated source for information on the best AV software out there.

    For free software though, I'd recommend Avast! and Avira, as well as MSE, over AVG Free.
     
  15. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

    Ahh BitDefender, I forgot that one - I use it on all my Linux setups, they do it for pretty much all platforms. Its a veery veery niiice! :D
     
  16. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    So, BitDefender, Trend, and AVG are good choices?
     
  17. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

    I recommend all of the above, but others may have a different opinion. BitDefender I have personal experience of as use it on all my Linux installs. The same goes for MSE (Microsoft), which I use on all our Windows installs. Trend and AVG I recommend based on the results I linked you earlier - I've not used either of them personally.
     
  18. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +25

    AVG sucks; it's bloated and has a ridiculously large number of false positives. Avoid if possible.
     
  19. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,833   +925

    Bloated maybe, false positives, I haven't seen any....
     
  20. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +25

    I've seen enough to avoid it. I just bought NOD32 instead and haven't looked back since.

    I use Avira on my laptop though; much better than AVG at almost everything.
     
  21. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,833   +925

    This seems to have become an extension of the AVG update thread over in news.

    So far, the Hyper 212 has now become not a decent value even at $15.00, and AVG renders false positives, that I simply haven't seen.

    So, you can have the last word, use whatever cooler you like, and give whatever counseling you please about AV product.

    I interpret it as simply need the last word, but guess what, I'm probably wrong about that too, aren't I?
     
  22. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    They just removed the $15 mail in rebate :mad:
     
  23. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +25

    Oh, come on cap.

    I recommended the Gaia simply because I didn't see the Hyper 212 cheaper elsewhere, and when I did see it on Newegg, it was listed without the MIR and had the same price as the Gaia. If it's cheaper, it's a steal, but I would prefer getting a better-performing and more silent cooler IMHO. It's just a recommendation and not set in stone; it's the OP's prerogative to get whatever fits their budget best.

    As for AVG, that's just upto personal experience. The main problems I've had with AVG are related to false-positives involving my FPGA software; it gets ridiculously annoying when you're trying to work and it keeps popping up messages that you know are bogus because you've already checked with the software manufacturer.
     
  24. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    Alright, guys, I'm ready to buy

    Here's what I hope is the final build:


    OS Win 7 - 64-bit
    Case + PSU
    MOBO + CPU
    CPU Cooler
    Card Reader
    HDD
    Video Card
    RAM
    DVD

    ~$1047

    I'll be going with the 212 since I've seen more recommendations for it than the Gaia. It also has an extra pipe, I think.

    EDIT: Never mind, back to the drawing board.
     
  25. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 752   +12

    Case + OS
    MOBO + CPU
    Card Reader
    HDD
    Video Card
    RAM
    DVD + PSU

    $950

    Alright guys, after talking with Relic, I ended up buying this.

    Are there any tips you guys might have for a novice builder? I've watched a couple of videos on youtube about cable management as well as some articles with tips, but I was wondering if there was anything else I should know.
     


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