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No Ethernet?

Discussion in 'Storage and Networking' started by ronobono, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. ronobono Newcomer, in training Posts: 81

    yeh im pretty sure now that its only modem..i had tryed all the drivers more than once from the site..About doing the scan on the laptop i cant do a scan because i cant get online with it..I have cable internet and no phone line so i cant use the dail up part.. And about the grren lights they dont blink or light up when i plug in the ethernet wire.

    Also when i took out the modem piece to look at it i had to unplug a little wire from it I also noticed at that point that there was another fatter wire next to that one not plugged in..Im thinking maybe that this bigger wire might be for the ethernet part but on the modem thats in it now theres no slot for it to go in..I think im just going to have to buy a new modem for it.

    Thanks for all the help everyone.:)
  2. master-wu Newcomer, in training

    The smaller wire is for modem tone/sound if I am not mistaken - the bigger one not necessarily for ethernet but it´s likely.

    Anyway, as I wrote before - another card isn´t that expensive (especially on eBay) - I would recommend the internal card (maybe a ethernet only internal card is cheaper than a combo (modem/lan) - as you don´t need a modem you could look out for that too.

    Cheers, Engin
  3. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    You do realize that this is a driver issue, not a hardware issue?

    It might be easier to take it to someone with a bit more knowledge about ethernet and modems.
    What they'll do is download every single driver for all the modems and Lan and combos stated.
    Then copy it all to a USB flash
    Then go to Device Manager and start updating them, until one works!
    That's about it
    In my opinion, half an hours work (especially seeming I've provided the links)
    Anyway, they'll then test with their known working ethernet cable, and that's it.

    To explain on a level of one is fatter than the other, may be too difficult I feel.

    edit:

    Oh I waited a few mins just to say another important point.

    It's a software driver issue
    .
    No need to purchase any more hardware, it's a complete laptop, nothing to add!
    .
  4. LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 7,677   +39


    1. Kimsland: When i first looked up the Thinkpad Model i saw the modem and Ethernet ports on its chassis. But as far as the internal card, I have to agree that from all i found looking up the IBM part number its just a fax modem card. There's no indication of network support. What hardware reference do you see stating "combo"? Could someone have used the combo word as its fax modem card?
    2. ronobono: If the card is in your computer when you start, go to Device Manager. Look through the list, in general, but at these entries (in particular). If an entry exists report back the device ID returned by Device Manage
      • Any devices listed under Modems?
      • Any devices listed under Network?
      • Anything listed as Unknown Device? (has a yellow question mark shown)
  5. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I'm talking about the software drivers, not the Hardware
    All the drivers say Net/Modem Driver Combo
  6. master-wu Newcomer, in training

    Hi kimsland,

    I still got my old modem-only card with me - I did a search for my P/N - the same combo-drivers come up for my definitly modem-only card.

    Anyway, as it seems you are the more knowledgeable one - it would be great if you could help ronobono to step through the processes he need to do in detail - Would be great if he get´s his laptop ethernet to work :)

    Cheers, Engin
     
  7. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Download all the drivers for all the combos!
    Extract them all into their own folders
    Burn to CD (This will be easier I feel)

    Go to Start-->Run--> devmgmt.msc

    Righr click on the queried device
    Update the drivers
    Not at this time (for online windows drivers)
    Select a specifi location
    Tick CD

    This will scan the CD for all drivers

    By the way, some drivers are in exe format that do not extract
    In this case, remove the faulty driver from Device Manager
    And run one at a time (until it works)

    Reply back
  8. Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,254   +38

    I disagree that it is a software issue. You should stop sending this poor guy on a ghost chase. :(

    This laptop requires a mini-PCI NIC for the LAN port to function - this was the design of the A21. For whatever reason, the card installed is only a modem and there is no driver that will fix this. I believe the T21 was also like this. Also, this is the reason such things as FRU: 04P3975 exist (Blank cap RJ45)

    Plain and simple, you need a new network card. Here's one for barely over $10 after S/H.

    As you can see from the P/N, the installed mini-PCI card does not have any sort of LAN capability.
  9. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    So this card is not installed?

    Please confirm this. If it's not there, obviously you cannot get ethernet
    I thought both cards were installed
  10. ronobono Newcomer, in training Posts: 81

    Sorry would have posted sooner but was gone for a few days..I might not know everything there is to know about computers but i do know a little..I know how to install the drivers and did so.(every one of them) so i know its not the problem.
    Like i said before im just gonna buy one that will work with ethernet. Just had to post one more time cause Kim is making it like i have no clue what im doing. Anyway thanks for the posts everyone have a nice day!
  11. kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    You didn't actually answer, and I'm concerned that you may not anyway.
    But is the Mini-Nic Card installed?

    ie There are two cards
    1 for Modem
    1 for Nic

    The driver caters for both (this is where the confusion is, by the way)

    My understanding is the cards actually exist (Seeming it's highly likely)

    ?