Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 Review: One Massive Graphics Card
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maroon1
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From the article
"The "cool" thing about the massive RTX 3090 Founders Edition are the cool operating temperatures. Well, that and the fact that it is virtually silent......."
Did you even read the review ???
There is difference between power consumption and heat. RTX 3090 does not produce a lot of heat (Probably because of the huge heatsink and cooler it have)
Even though RTX3090 consume a lot power it is has good performance per watt (unlike vega64)
cldmstrsn
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Nobody said 10GB is not enough, it's 8GB at a lower bandwidth that is seeing a few games surpass.
On a different note, if the rumour of a 20GB 3080 turns out to be true then what is the point of a 3090?
mAdmAnDingo
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The conclusion wouldn't change with an Intel CPU though. Steve concludes that the 3090 FE is 10% faster on average compared to an 3080. And TechPowerUp's conclusion to their "MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio Review" is that it is 16% faster than an 3080 on average. But it is also an OC GPU that is 6.6% overclocked out of the box.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-x-trio/38.html
As TPU stated in their conclusion, the MSI 3090 does have an OC of 6% in combination with raised power limits to increase the GPUs performance.
And if we look at TPU MSI 3090 review's
1080p,1440p and 4k averages, the FPS numbers between Techspot and TPU are almost identical.
1080p Average FPS
TS: 220
TPU: 201
1440p Average FPS
TS: 186
TPU: 179
4k Averager FPS
TS: 120
TPU: 112
TS FPS averages are actually slightly higher, but we do have a few different games being tested between the two. And there could be other differences as well.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-x-trio/28.html
But the averages are basically the same in this case (though not directly comparable across the board), despite the 3950X being a "massive bottleneck", the average FPS is still very similar. The gaming experience will be largely the same when using the 3950x or an Intel CPU.
And the MSI OC 3090 FE is also only 16% faster on average at TPUs MSI 3090 review, even with an 5ghz 9900k Intel CPU paired with 4000mhz RAM. And if we add an extra 6% to TS own 10% gains to make it 16% gain on average, it will not change the result in any notable way at all. Yes, it would be little bit faster, but not anywhere near enough to change Steve's conclusion or the recommendation. An extra 6% added to these numbers would not change the recommendation.
So it doesn't matter if you own an Intel or AMD CPU, the 3090 FE is just poor value in comparison to the 3080 for the average gamer. At least the MSI 3090 OC has a better cooler and is 6% overclocked out of the box, but it is also $100 more expensive vs the 3090 FE, so I still don't think it is a good buy coming in at $1500 for the MSI 3090.
And considering the 3090 has 20% more shaders vs the 3080, and that even with an MSI 3090 OC at TPU when paired with an 5ghz 9900k and 4000mhz RAM, it still only gave 16% extra performance over their 3080. So it is still poor value at such a price. The conclusion would be the same. It is still too expensive for too little added performance. Most gamers would do well to stick with the much better value 3080 (or even the upcoming 3070).
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Yeah for sure I would hope future driver updates help improve things. Though I don't know if that's likely to benefit this card more than it also benefits siblings.
thelatestmodel
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From the reviews I've seen, they got similar margins with Intel CPUs. There is no CPU bottleneck, especially at 4K.
No, it produces just as much heat as the V64 (actually a little more), but it's cooling solution is so much better at wicking it away from the gpu.
That 350-400 watts isn't just disappearing in the ether. It's being efficiently pulled away from the gpu, into a heatsink that weighs more than some laptops.
Yep, but there are going to be a handful of gamers out there willing to spend 100% more on a gpu so they can get a 10% improvement on their 4k 144hz displays.
Irata
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And it needs to be pointed out that this is the only thing that will be physically bigger.
Irata
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Seems like the 3090 has done its job - making the 3080 look better.
That‘s actually pretty smart marketing.
It didn't need to make the 3080 look better. It already sold out instantly, and by pretty much every measure except power draw, it stacks up as a really great buy (the 3080 that is).
Irata
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Not saying that the 3080 is a bad GPU - although I am curious how the crash issue is developing.
That said, something being sold out is not necessarily an indicator of a great product. Just look at cars made in eastern Europe under socialism. If you just went by the waiting time of ten years, those were awesome vehicles.
veLa
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geogan
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How did you expect 30% given it only has 20% more processing cores than 3080? It's not magic.
You're right in principle ofc. But I think in this case the reason it's sold out is because all of the reviews are painting them positively and the demand for people to upgrade is there.
Arbie
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Irata
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Oh, there absolutely is demand and it sounded decent going by the reviews and it is very good price / performance wise compared to its predecessor (which was bad compared to its predecessor).
But there also aren‘t any alternatives to the 3080 right now if you need something in that performance bracket and supply was very limited.
Tom Sunday
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Fantastic review and basically putting things where they really are! The statement about deep pockets is on point as well and those who won’t hesitate to snapping up that price to performance ratio in a heartbeat. Not to forgetting the persisting call of "bragging-rights" for the many in our world of tech. The ongoing very profitable RGB and AIO craze only supporting the showing-off madness even further. Although remember NVIDIA needs all the money it can muster after just grabbing ARM for a cool $40 billion. With the RTX 3080 currenly costing around $700 and being recommended to be a 'Go-To' kind of GPU, I may be able in getting my hands on a used RTX 1080 for $100 or less in early 2021? With that my wife can finally get her new refrigerator and I can play Fallout 4 on max-settings for the very first time.
