Nvidia intros GeForce GTX 460 SE with less CUDA cores

[captaincranky]

These cards probably are the ones 'initially rejected during manufacturing', where some core cluster(s) may not have been working; hence, I am guessing here they are just trying to make some money out of these cards by disabling the damaged cluster(s) and selling them as 'GTX 460 SE'.

I agree with Archean. With TSMC 40-nm yields so low, it makes sense to maximize their existing inventory even if the chips aren't 100% up-to-spec for a particular SKU. The downside is the confusion it causes especially if retail cards aren't clearly labelled as such. I already discovered a long time ago that there was nothing "Special" in any card labelled "S.E.".

I think I recalled ATI having similar yield problems with 40nm processing. Wasn't that the reason that the 4770 was in such short supply for quite a while?

 

[Technochicken]

I would think the two variations currently available would be enough to satisfy most consumers.

And pardon this moment of being a grammar Nazi, but it has fewer CUDA cores, not less CUDA cores.

 

[klepto12]

Hi Klepto12. Had to point out you are talking complete dross sir

Talking about the 9500gt is just ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the current crop of cards and their performance. If you compare the GTX 460 with a ATI 6870 (both directx11 - and we are talking about only dx11 here if people are upgrading) then the 6870 outperforms it BUT the cost difference more than makes up for it. The 6870 costs £195 compared to the GTX 460 1GB which averages around £150. The GTX 460 also has the same performance as a GTX 285 while running cooler with less power. To say ATI has the midrange market sown up at this point is brainless fanboyism.

Personally I just got a 460 after owning ATI since the 9700pro and before that the Geforce 2/3 and 3dfx Voodoo 1/2/3 before that. Memory bandwidth is extremely important to me - I often purchase older top level cards rather than buy the lower memory bandwidth current mainstream ones. I got my 9700pro late, then an x850XT.

I would not personally choose a 768mb version of the 460 because of the reduced memory bandwidth and the lower cache - it is an utterly dead card to me. But a 1GB version with less cores while keeping the full bandwidth allowing for better full screen anti aliasing etc might be VERY useful.

I agree that its not a massive difference between the full card and the 768 model - 20 quid here but then again that is a difference of 1/7th of the card cost. I know which card I would go for if I was limited on funds and it would probably be the 1GB with less cores than the lower bandwidth, lower memory one. You can always overclock these anyway

well anyway having 3 cards all the same but with this and that turned off and on is just ludicrous and i wasn't talking about current cards i was making a point just because you have more memory bandwidth doesn't always mean higher FPS. Almost everyone games at 1680x1050 or less so in reality my point is the best point because once again there is no reason for 3 gtx 460 cards.

 

[yukka]

klepto12 said:my point is the best point

Nope sir, you have an opinion as do others.

 

[Guest]

GTX460 SE uses phallic( weakened) chips and therefore will never have my trust. With phallic things are never known, a test card works great, in reality manufacturers use SE mark in order to earn additional money (I heard that they have plan to make the MSI GTX460 SE with 192 bits). Do you remember ATI 9600SE, 9200SE, FX5700LE, FX5200 Magic etc. Sorry for bad english.

 

[TeamworkGuy2]

Any one remember the Radeon X300 128 Hypermemory SE, I have one of those.

 

[yukka]

I have a Radeon 9200SE I think. It wasnt bad at the time. An upgrade from my Gerforce 2MX.

 

[captaincranky]

GTX460 SE uses phallic( weakened) chips and therefore will never have my trust. With phallic things are never known, a test card works great, in reality manufacturers use SE mark in order to earn additional money (I heard that they have plan to make the MSI GTX460 SE with 192 bits). Do you remember ATI 9600SE, 9200SE, FX5700LE, FX5200 Magic etc. Sorry for bad english.

You do indeed have a "poor grip", or perhaps, "lack a firm grasp",(pardon the puns), on the definition of the word, "phallic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus and or http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phallic

 

[Maximus]

rofl ^

I actually bought one of these cards and I'm quite impressed with it. It overclocks like a champ - 850/1700/1000 - without voltage increase or breaking a sweat. Not bad for a crippled GTX 460 1GB. It also outpaces the stock 1GB, with this overclock, in most games. Again, not bad for $165 CAD.