Troll bashing is my hobby. So all good on that score.
How many people use eyefinity.
Much more than were using it when the HD 4870 was current spec. If fact, around 2-3% of gamers now enjoy multi-monitor gaming (Up from 0% last year). See Steam Hardware Survey. Link to relevant results later in the post (note: this is called adding a citation. It adds supplemental information, places that information into context, and distinguishes "Fact" from "Opinion")
i am referring to the people at the middle of that normal distribution.
The GTX 580 et al aren't aimed at people within one standard deviation of the average...that is what you were trying to say with the backwoods math right?
The buyer of a GTX 595/HD 6990 or it’s equivalent in previous model lines might make up 1% of the buying market at most (hint: this lies outside
two (2) standard deviations)
and even at the extremes, gtx 580 (sli) and 6990 (crossfire) performance levels will suffice for a long time to come. .
kevin knows this since he's tapped into future game devs, DirectX 12 implementation, GPGPU and it's parallel computing implications. Tell me kevin, how do you see the future of ray tracing?
Secondly, Metro is a f*cking joke, stop kidding yourself. By no means demanding for the very high end cards.
At 4 x MSAA, tessellation and DoF enabled? (or are you making up special kev settings?) Nice try. There is a reason why cards are never benchmarked using 4 x MSAA in the game...
this is it.
If you're having trouble comprehending the results, it shows that the HD 5970, 5870, 5850, GTX 480 and 470 all fail to play this game at all at 2560x1600 -not an unreasonable resolution people buying the highest performing SKU's. Playability even at 1920x1080 means
dropping adv DoF
not to mention it favours Nvidia graphics .
Duh, this thread is about an nvidia graphics card
nor is it as good a game as crysis (i'll leave that one as my opinion). It is not the measuring stick, crysis still is, and it will be replaced by crysis 2..
Crysis is a graphically superior corridor shooter with the plot of a Jean Claude van Damme movie. If that's what turns your crank -and it seems it does- who am I to deny you your gaming chubby?
Then why reference 6870 over 5770? There is still a line genius...
The arbitrary line that Kev the First chooses obviously. How about the HD 5850 that I also referenced?
If i was to go that way i should be getting a 5450.
Maybe you should...at least it's DX11 compliant.
Fact is i wasn't even that impressed with the 6870 because it was no different from the 5000 series in terms of efficiency
If you could read the TPU charts (which are representative of everyone elses findings) you'll see that the 6870 offers inferior efficiency.
If your not impressed (AMD are likely wringing their hands at this thought) why use the 6850/6870 as a reference in the first place?
That is why i draw the line at 6870/50 rather than 5770..
Maybe we get the story on the front page! "Kev draws the line at 6870. AMD, Intel and nvidia to cease development of enthusiast, GPGPU and HPC graphics along with parallelised computing"
I'm guessing your knowledge of graphics card development is roughly equal to the number of Eyefinity capable HD 4870's.
....cards like a 6990 or gtx 595 which i can argue is unnecessary for most people....
Again.....enthusiast graphics aren't aimed at people like you. They are aimed at people who
want (not need) max performance.
outside of crysis (keep in mind here genius, normal distribution
Pretty sad with the constant references to a three year-old game....or haven't you clocked it yet?
(Hint: the long-buried, recently discovered aliens did it).
You're clearly just trying to disagree with everything i say here.
Only the bs you're spewing forth....hey guess what we're both right on this point, Huzzah!
I'm still talking about gaming.
Very short sighted there kev.
What about the workstation market ?
What about GPGPU ?
What about HPC ?
You blather on about efficiency this-and-that and don't even realize that you're destroying your own argument by referencing a card (Fermi) that is improving performance/watt efficiency by leaps and bounds in workstation and high performance computing.
By contrast, the CPU-only Jaguar has a Linpack/peak efficiency of 75 percent. Even so, Tianhe-1A draws just 4 megawatts of power, while Jaguar uses nearly 7 megawatts and yields 30 percent less Linpack.
The same Tianhe-1A was originally configured with HD 4870X2 cards. Replaced by Fermi cards to increase
efficiency.
And of course workstation and HPC cards are available because they are driver and hardware optimized variants of
enthusiast desktop graphics cards- you could say that Tesla, Quadro and FirePro
exist because of the enthusiast desktop graphics market...mainly because it is true.
Let me restate my initial point here....
Do you have to?
Crysis, as i said earlier, is the measuring stick,
Crysis: Kev's Measuring Stick Edition....happy now?
and it will be replaced by crysis 2 which will probably reign for another 3 years.
Nostradamus Kev !
I'm willing to bet Crysis 2 might also be a linear corridor shooter that has less appeal that the original because the gameplay and style are already known quantities.
Our average gaming resolution is 1920x1080 (not 5760x1080) with 4xAA give or take.
Wrong.
1680x1050. Also note that 6 months ago multi-monitor gaming wasn't even included in the survey.
... desktops using more than 600 watts of power, some nearing 1000... that is my concern, and that needs to come down..
Why? Global warming? fire risk ? EM radiation causing higher rates of cancer?
If you don't want a high performance system, then maybe you...uh...shouldn't buy one. Personally I think that every narrow minded person who believes that their personal viewpoint affords them a right to dictate to others should be nailed to a chair, and to have their beloved Crysis DVD hammered into the back of their skull until the brain stem is severed....while I'm sure my views would gather traction in a public forum, I also realize that ill-informed people who make outlandish claims based on thirty seconds of fractured thought are also entitled to the personal freedom of voicing their view
I think people got a bit too obsessed with more performance and forgot about power draw, i'm saying it has gotten out of hand.
Obsessed with performance on a technology site ! Wow, how did that happen !
Might I
suggest a site that is less performance orientated for you, since the ongoing striving for the Next-Best-Thing seems to be causing you some undue stress.