Old Pata/IDE hard drives

By Corwin613
Aug 11, 2009
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  1. is there really anything good to do with them instead of letting them sit in a drawer full of other unused hard drives?

    They all should be working still none of them are above 100 gigs though....
  2. fimbles

    fimbles TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,195   +105

    Buy some external hard drive cases off ebay and sell em :)
  3. AlbertLionheart

    AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    Sorry - have to disagree with that last post unless you are absolutely certain there is no deeply personal info (DPI) on them. There is a very active trade in old hard drives into West Africa (I know - I used to work there) where they are searched for DPI which is then used to raid bank accounts and the like.
    Destroy them by taking the platters out and using them as cup stands.
  4. strategic

    strategic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,274

    I agree. I would never sell any of my HDD's. If you purchase an External Harddrive 'Enclosure', you can plug them into your existing PC and use them as a backup or extra storage ;)
  5. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,264   +215

    You should be safe to sell them if you do a "secure wipe" on them.

    There should still be a small market for them for older hardware, lots of the old boards, like P2 or K6-2 and before (well maybe just before them) can't deal with drives over 137 gig.
  6. fimbles

    fimbles TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,195   +105

    I agree. As albert and others say above. Make sure you erase them properly.
  7. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    However, if you have nothing personal or important, might as well send them to me ^^.
    Honestly, they don't serve any purpose, unless your short on space or want to back up stuff on them.
  8. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    There are thousands of kids with nothing... donate the drives, find some old cases... and inspire some of these kids to learn something better than they now know... You don't need those drives and they do...
    It will change your life for the better, and it will certainly change theirs.
  9. Corwin613

    Corwin613 TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 113

    Been trying to find places that recycle old computers and components but nothing really exists around here yet I do have several older systems lying around here all under 1ghz and working though my first computer a Cyrix II 300mhz system wasn't POSTing properly last time i tried it ...

    Is it sad when you have like 30+ CD rom drives lying around?
  10. AlbertLionheart

    AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    The reason none of the recycle places exist any more is that people are taking out the hard drives before handing them over; this then makes refurbishment too expensive. Once again a dishonest minority have prevented the poor and needy from receiving a valuable benefit.
    I stick by my rule - I never ever let old hard drives back on the market. Ever.
  11. Corwin613

    Corwin613 TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 113

    I was really thinking more like places that actually recycle the old boards etc like melt them down and what not and reuse the metals for new products
  12. AlbertLionheart

    AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    Thats another completely different can of worms - most of these recycling places are in the poorest and worst controlled countries (Brazil, Ghana, China, etc etc) where the chemicals used to leach out the metals like gold are actually poisoning the people who do it. Still, it might be marginally better than landfill.
  13. Corwin613

    Corwin613 TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 113

    I have actually found a few places that do it here in the US but they want money to do it which is not something i really have to spare currently
     
  14. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,264   +215

    Just secure wipe the drives and sell them to someone, or give them away. No need to trash or pay someone to recycle them.
  15. habbfan

    habbfan Newcomer, in training Posts: 19

    I am surprised that no one has mentioned electromagnets. One can be built from common household items that will do the job to a military grade of security. A simple google will produce many results.
  16. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Often tried, but seldom works as well as promised... and certainly not to a miltary grade of security (if there is one yet).. but not to Federal standards, for sure.
    Have worked on many projects where this was attempted. They were all laughers.
    Think about it. If this really worked, everybody would be doing it.
    To remove them from circulation, use an electric drill and a good bit.
    To make them re-usable, just reformat them a three times. Nobody knows how to recover from drives from which they do not know the source.

    It has been proven many times that degaussers (magnetic systems) don't not work nearly often enough. Hard drives have such strong shielding that the magnetic oersteds (Oe) used to destroy the data can only achieve a high enough field intensity to destroy the read-write arm. Therefore, it's often possible to remove the platters, so the bad guys put them in new disk housing with a new read-write arm, and read the data that you thought you had destroyed.

    The new disk shielding technologies have made degaussers unreliable at best.

    Reformatting a disk can wipe out the data, but reformatting a disk is very time consuming. It can take hours to reformat one disk. And the system reformatting the disk needs to be operational. The Hard Disk Crusher can destroy a disk and the data on it in just seconds without the need of a peripheral PC or workstation.

    True, that a very good technician can recover a formatted drive when he has special equipment... but when nobody knows the source of the drive, that effort is relatively futile.
  17. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,264   +215

    I can't believe there is this much discussion on this. There is absolutely no need to do anything other than secure wiping the drive (something like 7+ passes) and then sell or give the drives away. Why destroy a perfectly good drive that someone could use. And you guys are kidding yourselves if you think some Asian/African country is going to spend the time and effort to try to recover anything off a drive that shows up with nothing on it. Now I bet in some sophisticated labs they could get the data back, but it isn't worth the time and effort for that type of stuff on a discarded consumer drive.
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