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By evilsmith
Jun 18, 2013
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  1. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,057   +918

    Yeah, I see what you are saying.
     
  2. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Well I made the purchase, THANK YOU to everyone who has helped me through this process once again. I apologize for not being as active as I should be in terms of following this thread but I did read and value every persons opinion and put them into consideration. I ultimately went with JC713 recommendations and swapped out the RAM and Motherboard that hellokitty suggested. All in all, I'm quite satisfied with the parts and hopefully the build goes well. Thanks again everyone!
     
  3. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,057   +918

    Great! Best of luck.
     
  4. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +99

    Good stuff. Let us know if you need any further advice with your build. :)
     
  5. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Hey TechSpot community so I just wanted to provide an update with the build so far and also ask for some more assistance. As of now I have installed everything but there seems to be an issue with the display not showing.

    Everything sounds okay when I start up the computer, no beeps or abnormal issues but just no display shows up. I have tried multiple monitors and tried both integrated GPU slots. I even took my GPU from my own working personal computer and installed it to the new computer but it is not showing up.

    As of now I know for sure that the PSU works correctly as I have tried plugging it into my other computer. I am about to test the RAM individually, but I believe it is an issue with the motherboard and perhaps there is an issue with it. A bit of research online said there might not be display because I did not plug in the 4pin for the CPU but the Corsair has an 8pin and I have split it in two but still there is no display.

    Currently I'm lost and debating whether to ask for a new mobo from Newegg or not (Don't really know how return policy works) Hope to hear back soon thanks!

    Summary: Built computer, but no display to reach bios / Windows.\

    Edit: Just tested the RAM slots both of them and the RAM sticks themselves and both seem to work fine. I don't have a newer DDR3 compatible Mobo to test any further. Also the PSU I'm using is Corsair 500 and the MSI FM2 A75 both can be found in the earlier posts that others recommended. My worst fear is that they are not compatible but they seem to be.
     
  6. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,292   +547

    On your motherboard, there should be a Debug LED monitor to tell you if there is an issue with something. Do you see any wierd (Probably Red) lights that appear on the board (Im assuming based off what ive seen you say you have the MSI one right). That could let you know instantly if theres an issue, if not could you post your exact specs, I could not find out exactly from the posts what exactly you have in the machine (If I missed it, sorry but I keep reading and im not sure which parts you decided on all the way).
     
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  7. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,377   +127

    Hi again, sorry you're having issues... I honestly don't think I can help you a lot with this, but if you're using the same cable, maybe you could try a spare. I have heard that those are sometimes the culprits.
     
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  8. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Sorry for not being specific but currently there are no red lights.
    My build exactly is:
    CPU: AMD A8 6500
    RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB)
    HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM ...
    PSU: Corsair CX500
    MOBO: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 FM2 AMD A75
    Case: Using an old case unaware of brand, but also tested with my personal case Antec 300 (Still no Display)
    GPU: Integrated doesn't work, added HD 4770 which works perfect on my computer still doesn't work.

    A bit a research on reviews from Newegg I found this: "Cons: The board has a great price and SPECs and says its compatible with AMD A series APU. After spending two days working with the board I have wasted lots of time and money with MSI. What they don’t say is the BIOS VER the board may ship with (VER1.3) is incompatible with A6-5400K 3.8 GHZ + discrete GPU. The board will not post or display through HDMI or RGB with this processor MOBO COMBO. MSI initial response is to upgrade the bios by installing a CPU/APU that is compatible with BIOS1.3. Well MSI may have processors laying around but I do not. The inconsistency is they know this an issue and in hind sight after reading 1 egg reviews others are having the same issue and are being provided the option to ship the board to MSI for a BIOS update. As I of write this review have not been given this option."

    but I don't know if it is an issue because I researched that the CPU and Mobo are compatible and I'm using an A8 not A6

    Edit: Kitty Cables as in the outlet cable? I have been using the new one and my old case's cable (tested both) since that's where my monitor is located.
    Also thank you for the quick responses.
     
  9. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,057   +918

    Only high end motherboards have those LEDs. His motherboard is low end.

    The cable being an issue also came to my mind.
     
  10. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    As of now I believe it is an issue with the BIOS being outdated to support the Processor. There were some bad reviews on Newegg, the one I posted above is customer stating that AMD A6 not working on the BIOS that the manufacturer starts with; so a flash is necessary but currently I cannot flash and I have no older CPUs to downgrade in order to flash. I have contacted Newegg customer service to get a free restocking fee and free shipping back if there is indeed an issue with the motherboard. I will contact MSI tomorrow when they are open and hope to resolve this issue.

    Also the cable [I'm assuming you're talking about the black outlet cable] I have tried old and new (one the provided) and both currently do not work as no display shows up.

    Thank you everyone for your responses.
     
  11. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,377   +127

    Hey good work looks like you're on to something. Hope it goes well, Newegg has always been very generous with their customer services.
     
     
  12. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    I do wish for some advice though, assuming everything doesn't workout and I return the motherboard, what do you recommend would be a good replacement motherboard with integrated graphics? The first one that was recommended? Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 ($80)?
     
  13. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,057   +918

    AMD doesnt use the same chipset terminology as Intel, so it can get confusing. I know people had BIOS problems in that the CPU wasnt performing any better than the previous generation. This was fixed via a BIOS update. Not sure if that will affect you. According to Newegg though, the motherboard you purchased does not have a video chipset. I think integrated graphics should still work since you have an APU (CPU+GPU).
     
  14. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Hi, so sorry for somewhat reviving a dead post but I need help selecting a new motherboard as I have returned the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130662 mSI mobo and the Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 ($80) has been discontinued. So I need something that is compatible with these items.

    CPU: AMD A8 6500
    RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB)
    HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM ...
    PSU: Corsair CX500
    Thank you in advance.


    Edit: What I am thinking about right now which I believe is compatible and suitable to my uncle's basic computer browsing needs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157332 . I believe it fits the RAM, CPU and has an integrated gpu.
     
  15. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,292   +547

  16. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,057   +918

  17. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Thanks for the recommendations, the Asus is a bit too expensive for me I believe and I believe there's no on board video. The Gigabyte I think I'll get, but are there cheaper and yet reliable alternatives before I choose the Gigabyte one?
     
  18. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,292   +547

    On an APU your CPU had the on-board video chip, any of the mentioned boards will work with it.
     
  19. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,057   +918

    Yeah, the video is not powered by the chipset.
     
  20. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

  21. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,292   +547

  22. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    I bought the mSI and had to return it, because the BIOS either couldn't support my CPU or the board was DoA
     
  23. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,292   +547

  24. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    There have been some negative reviews with regards to the Asus boards having the same issue I had with the msi board which it does not have any display and requires a BIOS update. That's the only thing that makes me skeptical.

    Edit: However I think I may give it a chance
     
  25. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,292   +547

    I am about to help a friend build a Richland 6800k machine with this board

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131883

    But that one is a little bit more than the others. Honestly asrock boards are good, in recent times they are nice boards and they offer a very competitive price. In my opinion, I have seen all of their full atx boards come out great, but 1/2 micro boards from them that I've had a friend purchase or seen have come doa. But that's standard an going to happen no matter what in this day and age.

    I say they both are good boards and either one should work, if you like the asrock boards price and features more, give it a try, it will more than likely be just fine. I'm just partial to asus because their stuff has been very reliable to me (only 1 ever doa board from them and it was my most recent board ironically :p).
     


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