PC vs CONSOLE gaming

[kens8]

[LEFT] In the same manner it is possible that consoles - like the sportscars - will fade when compared to gaming systems which are getting closer in terms of performance and could also be used for a lot of purposes - you can use a SUV to drive on the highway but also to pass through some mud or a little mountain-drive, things which cannot be done with a sports car.[/LEFT]

Interesting. I acutally see something else happening in practice, though. Consoles are adding more and more functionality in order to be more attractive outside the gamer community, and I think that just may work. I think people like the idea of having a box that is completely set up and works exactly the same every time. They will never have that with a PC, but if there's a console that will play their DVDs, CDs, MP3s, video files, etc.; act as a meeting place for things other than gaming; play games; and work exactly the same every time, it's not hard to imagine consoles booming.

That said, consoles will never, ever replace PCs. There's just too much that can be done on PCs that will never be able to be done well (or at all) on a console. That's why I made the comment "does this have to be an either/or discussion." There's a place for both. They're really two completely different markets.

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

Interesting. I acutally see something else happening in practice, though. Consoles are adding more and more functionality in order to be more attractive outside the gamer community, and I think that just may work. I think people like the idea of having a box that is completely set up and works exactly the same every time. They will never have that with a PC, but if there's a console that will play their DVDs, CDs, MP3s, video files, etc.; act as a meeting place for things other than gaming; play games; and work exactly the same every time, it's not hard to imagine consoles booming.

That said, consoles will never, ever replace PCs. There's just too much that can be done on PCs that will never be able to be done well (or at all) on a console. That's why I made the comment "does this have to be an either/or discussion." There's a place for both. They're really two completely different markets.

But any changes in one do affect the other, don't they?

 

[kodrutz]

[LEFT] Depends on each particular change, some may affect the other, some may not.
But since the tendency is to use a component for as many goals as possible, your point is right -for example, old nintendo cartdriges didn't work on Pc's, and floppy disks didn't work on consoles either, and now dvds and cds are used in both consoles and pcs.[/LEFT]

 

[kens8]

But any changes in one do affect the other, don't they?

Depends on what you mean. The technologies certainly affect each other. ATI will probaby come out with an amazing PC graphics card based on what they learned with the 360, for instance. As far as market share goes, I think we'll start seeing less and less competition between PCs and consoles because consoles will be capable of doing so much more than just playing games. Imagine you have the choice of buying a high-def DVD player for $300 or a console for $400. If it the console could play the DVDs, act as a DVR, connect to the internet, and stream music and video all over the house, as well as playing games, which would you buy? This is down the road, of course, but that's where consoles are heading. The 360 is an obvious step in that direction and I'll bet the PS3 will have some similar capabilities, at least it will if they want to truly compete. I see consoles competing more with other TV devices, like DVD players, than PCs.

 

[eman_226]

PS3 will be able to use mouse and keyboard as it's 'primary' controlls if you choose too. So therefore many people without the funds to build a pc gaming rig, will buy a PS3.

 

[PC_Nerd]

PS3 will be able to use mouse and keyboard as it's 'primary' controlls if you choose too. So therefore many people without the funds to build a pc gaming rig, will buy a PS3.

wat about the OS *******

 

[kens8]

PS3 will be able to use mouse and keyboard as it's 'primary' controlls if you choose too. So therefore many people without the funds to build a pc gaming rig, will buy a PS3.

The Dreamcast had that too, but it didn't really fly on a console. How do you use a mouse and keyboard on the couch?

 

[darkstuarez]

Can't the console not be better than the pc that creates it?

 

[kens8]

Can't the console not be better than the pc that creates it?

Now you're getting into "chicken or the egg" territory.

 

[PC_Nerd]

Chicken or the egg

actually PC's all started in caveman times when people wanted a way to count their livestock

 

[Grr_San_jose_Ca]

So what came first the chicken or the egg?

 

[kodrutz]

Well, I think it was the egg first, since _a big secret_ before the creation, god had 3 eggs, and used one to spawn all life on earth from it, nevermind what you heard so far, I tell you, this is a big secret :angel:

 

[SultanGris]

PC gaming far surpasses console gaming, and always will, consoles are basically less powerfull PC's, with worse graphics.

pure and simple, cut and dried, its a fact, jack. anything you say trying to disprove this therory will only point out to the rest of us your lack of inteligence but good luck trying, woot!!

 

[kens8]

PC gaming far surpasses console gaming, and always will, consoles are basically less powerfull PC's, with worse graphics.

pure and simple, cut and dried, its a fact, jack. anything you say trying to disprove this therory will only point out to the rest of us your lack of inteligence but good luck trying, woot!!

If only it was that easy. In my opinion consoles and pcs are constantly leapfroging, as far as technology goes. Take the 360's graphics processing. The technology that ATI developed for the 360 makes the 1800 and 7800 look primitive. By the middle to end of the console's life, though, PCs will have caught up and surpassed the 360. The major downside to consoles are the fact that you're stuck with the technology that was shipped in that box.

One place where consoles will always be superior to PCs is social gaming. Forget graphics, sound, physics, etc.. You will never have the level of socialization on a PC that you have on a console.

 

[compres]

If only it was that easy. In my opinion consoles and pcs are constantly leapfroging, as far as technology goes. Take the 360's graphics processing. The technology that ATI developed for the 360 makes the 1800 and 7800 look primitive. By the middle to end of the console's life, though, PCs will have caught up and surpassed the 360. The major downside to consoles are the fact that you're stuck with the technology that was shipped in that box.

One place where consoles will always be superior to PCs is social gaming. Forget graphics, sound, physics, etc.. You will never have the level of socialization on a PC that you have on a console.

In my opinion, thats so false. The consoles are no way near the pc in social gaming, just ask any mmprpg player. Online gaming is what makes PCs so much better, you can chat and play, and if that's not social then what is?

You may say that consoles now can go online, but where's my keyboard when I want to chat? And if you are referring to Split screen gaming, some people(me included) don't really like looking at tiny boxes, on top of that your adversary can see what you are doing and where you are.

Other games like fighting can be played with multiple usb gamepads on the pc. And notice I have not even mentioned emulation...

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

But do u think both can be compared? Because they're made for completely different purposes aren't they? A PC is made for a diverse number of tasks while consoles are strictly for gaming. That basically voids the purpose of this thread innit? What do u guys think?

 

[Grr_San_jose_Ca]

:grinthumb I agree with rage.

 

[kens8]

In my opinion, thats so false. The consoles are no way near the pc in social gaming, just ask any mmprpg player. Online gaming is what makes PCs so much better, you can chat and play, and if that's not social then what is?

You may say that consoles now can go online, but where's my keyboard when I want to chat? And if you are referring to Split screen gaming, some people(me included) don't really like looking at tiny boxes, on top of that your adversary can see what you are doing and where you are.

Other games like fighting can be played with multiple usb gamepads on the pc. And notice I have not even mentioned emulation...

In one sense you're right, but the fact is that chating through the pc with someone on the other side of the country (or world) is completely different than sitting with your friends on a couch. You will act completely differently with someone on the other end of a computer connection than you will someone next to you on the couch. Let's face it, a good number of people who talk trash on MMOs wouldn't say boo to anyone face to face.

But do u think both can be compared? Because they're made for completely different purposes aren't they? A PC is made for a diverse number of tasks while consoles are strictly for gaming. That basically voids the purpose of this thread innit? What do u guys think?

You're absolutely right. They're two different markets. Even when it comes to gaming, how many people actually only play on one or the other? I like to play devil's advocate on both sides of the fence in discussions like this, though.

 

[worldi25]

After just playing on the X360, I think ill stick with my PC

 

[SultanGris]

the only way u would even mistakenly think console is better than pc is if you got a older computer, top of the line computer vs console, no comparison. pc rules

 

[maxbb1]

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/hardware/next-genconsoles-therealdeal.shtml

read that it is basically the specs of the two consoles.. it seems that for at least a little while the new consoles will be quite a bit more powerful than pcs but of course the pcs will take the lead again.... but the price of the consoles can not be passed by so i think i will play them for a while

 

[fimbles]

I have to agree consoles do look like they are getting ahead in the graphics department... but wait...

try googling

Dirext x 10 demo

unreal engine 2

With the advent of 64 bit processors becoming the normal..
The posts are being moved again.

 

[YellowC4S]

[LEFT] Well, the comparison wasn't with the car, but with what happened - Porsche had to build this "car" because the SUV market is huge these days and sports cars don't sell that good as in their golden age.[/LEFT]

With reference to Porsche, as a Porsche owner, driver and racer, I would have to disagree. The 911 in it's current form is selling extremely well. I went through the Cayenne vs Touareg thing also and ended up getting the Touareg with the V10 TurboDiesel.

All in all, I'd never buy a console because a PC is just so much more versatile to start with. If a console should develop more power, I'll just upgrade my PC. Another thing, if the console breaks down, you basically have a $300 paperweight whereas if my CPU goes out, I just buy a new CPU.

just my .02

 

[kens8]

Everyone's talking about the power of the pc vs the console, but in the end it's the games that matter. If a really good game comes out on a console and not pc, then what do you do? Anyone who only plays on a pc will never play games like Halo 2, Project Gotham Racing, Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo, or virtually anything on a Nintendo console. Vice versa it true also: People who only play on consoles will never get to play FEAR, Neverwinter Nights, or pretty much any RTS. So, what's the big deal (unless you absolutely have to choose one or the other)?

 

[SultanGris]

I have to agree consoles do look like they are getting ahead in the graphics department... but wait...

try googling

Dirext x 10 demo

unreal engine 2

With the advent of 64 bit processors becoming the normal..
The posts are being moved again.

the limiting graphics factor of your console is your TV, so unless you have a high definition tv, theres no comparison to PC graphics.