PC vs CONSOLE gaming

I hear that. 'Sif PC games don't rule for the simple fact that you can mod them!

this is false... with the new xbox live system and even the old one, you can download new patches for games and also maps, carachters and other "Modified" content so long as you have the HDD add on. read up first m8.

i also have a few consumer made mods for Halo 2, allbeit my xbox is modded too, which is where microsoft got the idea of making modded content for thier games in the first place... look at the X360, it has an MP3 function which the xbox v1.0-1.6c never had unles you modified the bios in some way, and most of thier software was bought of xbox modders....

consoles arent that bad, true conmsoles dont improve their hardware, they improve their games, and wtf? when has gaming been all about graphics, its about gameplay, soccom 2 is a poor graphics games, but it can it way more fun than any fancy looking games a pc can throw, so consoles do have better gampley, it aint about the eye candy, stop being shallow and say pcs rule only cuz of the eye candy, am not sayin they have crap games, they have sweet titles too but one is more liekly to find mu deep games in consoles. ol, casuals. I have noticed that most the people here have little experience with console gaming or none at all.

i didnt say consoles suck, i just said pc was better, i like consoles better for driving games, but theres no way the graphics can compare.

lol, i never said consoles have better graphics, i said consoles have better games, ill be honest, the only 2 thigns computers are good for playing are first person shoorter and rts games, and first persons shooters can also be played good on consoles, so only rts games really, consoles have better quality games, i mean in gampley, not technics, lol, theres a lot of sweet looking games on pc, but about 2/3 of them are not as fun as playing a good consoles game with a good plot, and theme

PLAY CSS With a 6600 or highier!!! fps on comp destroys the console.


PLAY BF2 OR OBLVION ON THE COMPUTER destroys FPS AND RPG'S


YOU'RE OPINIONS ARE GREAT BUT ARROGANT. PLAY ONE OF THE THREE ON A RESPECTABLE COMP AND YOU TWO WILL BE A BELIEVER.

one thing that peeves me about console games is when the makers create a great story line but they bollox up the ending...

take Driver paralell lines for instance, i have recently completed it on the XBOX 1 and to be honest, the ending is a bit half hearted, the graphical quality is somewhat of GTA but a bit better, and the gameplay is almost axactly to the same specification to GTA apart from the era change, this is where it gets better than GTA

but enough of comparing driver to gta, if you plan on playing driver and don't want to know the ending dont read this post past this point....


well, you have to chase some crazy guy who's in a chopper that tries to kill you all the way through the game, but after you shoot the chopper down, he's sitting in front of you in an fmv sequence and some chick you've been working with says she wantsa him alive, but you want to kill him but in the end he goes with the chick... i wanted to see his brain splatter on the pavement myself though... which is the same as BLACK, the ending is bolloxed up, as are most endings to console gamers as the developers want to extend the life of thier product by ending the game cr5appy so they can make a bit more of the story up...

i havn't slept for 2 days obsessing over my crappy fps on cs source so if anyone wants to help me, post under this topic please

http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic47385.html

oh btw, PS2 sux, Xbox rox, Blackbolt is 31337, gl hf bb/

Lets make no mistake about this people,
Consoles play games. Thats what they do. It's dedicated pretty much to do that and only that, so it should be no wonder that its more efficient to play these games on a console.

Console gameing like PC's has evolved steadilly and they have proven themselves mightilly. When you put a game disk into a console you are almost guaranteed for said game to work correctly. While there's no absolute to this, you can bet it will be true more than 90% of the time. Can you say that about a PC?

Secondly, a console is many times LESS expensive than comparable PC. show me a kick **** PC that starts out 300-400 out of the gate. This is the undenyable strength of the console, you get and awesome gaming platform for a fraction of the cost of a gaming PC with no start up times, glitches, Windows errors, patches, service packs, etc......NO headaches.....THIS IS HUGE!!!!!.


Again price is a major and inescapable advantage, which PC users might claim translates into the PC's strength......the ability to upgrade. But I say thats its weakness. Why? CONSOLE DEVELOPERS CODE BETTER THAN PC DEVELPERS. Heresy you'll say, but think about it. When a fresh generation of consoles first arrives, they are more powerful than PCs for about a year or so, but then suddenly new tech arrives and once again the PC's take the lead, but consoles have traditionally kept the tech curve going strong with better, savvy and more powerful looking games in its own right. They HAVE TO....they have no choice. Console developers get resourceful and find out the hidden strengths of the unit's codding, they manipulate and skew the software into their favor where games like HALFLIFE 2 are able to be played on an 800mhz XBOX. PC developers do no such thing. They do not care about the platforms you the consumer must buy. They are not efficient in the least, thus you must go out and buy the latest $300-$600 graphics card or whatever to play the newest game in the store.


It is quite obvious PCs were NEVER meant to play games. Rather they are being forced to do it. Thats why you have to go out and spend $2000 for a machine to play them. Its akin to turning your car into a boat.....sure, you CAN do it.....it just wasn't supposed to and every so often you get rust and leaks because you pressed the issue in modifying it.....not to mention you spent a small fortune whereas, it would have been cheaper to just buy a boat.


If I had my choice I would ONLY play games on consoles, but alas I don't have a choice. For while I abhor the PC platform as a gaming machine, the games can not be denied. The games I like the most, MMORPG's are primarilly dedicated to PC's. But you can bet those dynamics will change. They are already changing (Final Fantasy Online). PC gaming won't die, it will soon be assimilated to console gaming and resistance will be futile.

The whole coding thing has nothing to do with any thing just his/hers opinion.

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No, the "codding" thing I speak of is more fact. I think you just misunderstood.

I'm not saying the games are better or worse, I'm merely pointing out the fact that console developers get and CREATE more mileage than PC develpers regarding both respective platforms.

The example of HALFLIFE 2 for XBOX serves as a good example. Final Fastasy Online For PS2 as another. How about Madden 2002-2006 for all consoles?

CONSOLE devs squeeze the life out of thier machines causing joy to customers who play their games, while PC devs don't.....They cause you to go out and spend 500 more bucks.


This also causes consoles to last longer than PC's as viable gaming machines.

Woah, someone has issues. Yeah I know I selectively edited, sue me. Sounds like you have a problem with people who play consoles, not the consoles themselves. That's pretty stereotypical, and dead wrong. I taught my granny how to play GTA: San Andreas :haha: , and when a few of my mates are here we usually end up killing the crap out of each other in Red Faction 2 :grinthumb The thing is, not everyone is hardcore enough to go and get a €2000 pc to play games, I personally only want to spend less than half of that, and the pick-up-and-playability of console games really appeals to me. Pc's may be better most of the time but they should be, they cost way more! It's like putting a thoroughbred racehorse against a donkey, and it's not fair. It's turning into a console-bash-a-thon here. Basically, like I said somewhere else, consoles are better for "light" gaming and multiplayer, but don't get me wrong, there are some hardcore console gamers out there. PC's are (when they're made for gaming) a lot better for single-player and online stuff, so... it depends on what kind of gamer you are. Everyone's right then, in a way. So stop fighting

Yeah what ever

pc is way better
-2 x 512mb 7800gt dual edition
-fx-60 dual core processor
-32gb ddr2-800 ram (on 64-bit based systems)
-better online games
-fps games are blopdy retarded on consoles cause no mouse
-lol no msn

o and

and people who buy consoles are cheap unless they also have pc-hehe

Speed, if your coming from a hardware standpoint, the xbox 360 has a tri core ibm power pc chip, each core is running at 3.2 ghz so thats 9.6ghz worth of processing power, that would eat your fx60 alive.

this post started off as, which is better for playing a game, not hardware...

but if your going for hardware, a console can't be beat for sheer compatibility, oh and there is such thing as adapters, eg for mouse and keyboard. to connect my mouse/keyboard to my xbox. and yet there is full functionality as you would expect from playing on a pc.

so that makes your statement very redundant Speed.

oh also, what about people with children who are too young to get to grips with a keyboard and mouse eh? like my little brothers, they couldn't use pc's when they were younger (they're only 10 now) but with consoles, they could just pick up the joypad and play straight away, not very good i might add but controllers have the ability of quick usability which most people like in consoles. in addition to the relatively small amount of money that consoles cost compared to a quality gaming PC hand the torch over to consoles as one of the best and "easiest to use" platforms for gaming

i like pc better though, more games

the fact is, they're going to be rivals for a long time to come, especially where technology is concerned.

microsoft have engulfed the gaming market too owning one of the most prominent o/s in the world (It's crap though) and also, one of the best selling games consoles in the world, with ther most functionalite, since when has anyone put a HDD in a console before the xbox? none that i know of, tnats because microsoft were building off a PC and using emulation and compression to put games on DVD instead of the usual install on a pc. so basically you could say the consoles are PC's which makes this whole thread a waste of time .

put it this way, consoles can't be ligitimately upgraded so they are always going to fall behind after a while and pc's will take over the limelight once again but there will still be a war being waged between maufacturers.

They are separate markets, but they depend on each other for survival. And in the end, its the consumers who have to pay, 'cause its their money and they can choose to spend it whichever way they like. A console has its own distinct advantages, the main one being price, which is the main reason ppl buy a $200 PS2 in favour of a $600+ X1900XTX(look who's talking eh? hehe ). Some games work well on a console, others on a PC but it all boils down to u. It's ur choice(that line kinda reminds me of The Matrix, the blue pill-red pill sequence. :grinthumb)

Wow, you guys are scary. But I may as well throw in my 2 cents...
Currently I own a reasonably flash PC (100+ games), a Nintendo Entertainment System (10 games), a Super NES (5 games), a Nintendo 64 (20 games), a Playstation (2 games), a SEGA Master System II (2 games), a SEGA Mega Drive II (4 games) and a whole pile of emulators I love to play. I have been gaming for 20 of my 24 years, and have played more games than I can remember, but I will always choose a PC over the consoles. Visual quality is superior, support is free online, and mod mod mod!

And might I say persistantthug is a tad uneducated... Not to say consoles are crap - they aren't. It's just that when it comes to flexibility, PC's win over, and now consoles are emulating that; HDD's, USB, wireless, CD and DVD, MP3'z, Emulators, upgrades - it all started with PC's baby.
To say that console developers are better at coding is a pile of crap, as they have a set piece of hardware to work with, and a set piece of code to adapt to the hardware. The example for Half-Life 2 shows just how techless you are. Do you know what the maximum resolution of an XBox is compared to the maximum resolution of a high end PC? The only reason they could get it to run (and the same with Doom3) is they amount of quality they chopped out of it. It's the same with all console games vs PC games - console = lower visual quality, PC = better visual quality. Quality isn't based on how smooth your games run, it's the graphic mode it is running in.
And to say that PC's obviously weren't meant for gaming? Do you actually think we need the processors we have for word processing, Media Player and Photoshop? And you wouldn't have graphics accelerators in your consoles if they hadn't been designed and made for PC's first.
PC games have the better control system as well. Ever seen those game replay's on TV? Console gamers move and look around like a caveman with prehistoric parasites eating his insides. Pc gamers are all look-shoot-move-shoot, not "move forward"-stop-"aim up"-"adjust aim"-shoot. This is also the reason lots of people think consoles are better for gaming - the games are made easier because it is harder to aim and move with same degree of accuracy as on a PC. Half-Life 2 again as an example. They almost take the aim-up, aim-down aspect of the console version out completely. Talk about 2D.
The fact is, if you don't have as much skill or know-how, a console will appeal to you. PC's are for people with the skills and desire to get the most of what they have, and are not content to let someone else simply set the standard for them. I still play all my consoles, but only for entertainment. PC games are for a challenge.

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triple core 3.2ghz is not 9.6ghz of proccessing power, and the frequency of the cpu doesnt say it all either so, whatever

thers 2 thing I have to say, first of all, I have noticed pc gamers are all shallow, they can have the ****ties game ever and only beacuse of the graphics they will say its good, am nikt saying comsole gaming is better, I enjoy both computers and consoles, id die of boredom without them, or my guitar, lol. but anyways, games on consoles dont tend to loose a lot of frames nowadays, seeing as games are made for the capabilities of the console, therefore they system can handle it 100 percent. on computer yes, they tend to have better grphics, but at higher prices. if one wants to play games at highest settings all the time, never have to back down he would have to get a new video card like every 2 years, which sucks of course, am not saying people have to do it, but in the range that all consoles can handle their games at max out graphics, when not all computers can. thats a real bummer. am not saying that consoles are better than pcs, or that pcs are better than consoles, they are both fun and it only realy is a person's opinion to claim that one is better, theres not proven facrts,because a game is a lot more than just graphics, one must take the other parts in account also ( char devep, plot, themes, does it make sence? replay value... etc...)

I know that the next CoD is NOT coming to PC.