PC vs CONSOLE gaming

has someone mentioned yet that xbox360 only plays on like.. max 1000x800 sometin widescreen res? ive seen some ppl playing like.. 1600x1200 n some go widescreen on gaming PCs..

PS 3 comes out in Nov. It will pwn xbox so who cares. lol

That remains to be seen. So far, X360 is king coz it's snapped up market share due to Sony's late launch of the PS3.

At least with a PC you don't have to use some sh177y controller

For some games that actually is a necessity on the PC. Take Prince of Persia(Sands of Time and onwards) for example. Sure u can play it with a keyboard, but it's way easier with a gamepad.

But they're horrible!

pshhh only 3rd party developed controllers suck (mad catz, pellican) most of the time you cant go wrong with wired controllers or 1st party wireless


i dont take sides, its nice the consoles i can get reviews about how a game runs on the machine, and it wont change, with pc's they review them on high end settings...which is out of my reach lol

but still...you cant do as much as you can on a pc than with an xbox or something...but thats not what this topic is about lol

TBH I could never get on with any of the gamepads, even back in the day when I was trying to play NES and SNES games. Nothing beats the keys and mouse combo for me.

I don't see how you all are comparing a PC to a Console. A console is a PC beaten down to one aspect of what a PC can do, run games.

When you run a game on a PC it is running over the OS. The game is not the priority, Windows will not turn off a service it is not using to give the game more CPU usage or memory. It uses what is leftover from the OS's processes.

Now on the other hand when you run a game on console you do still have an OS. But you can't compare it to a PC's which can recognize, open, and edit hundreds of file formats, i dont see you editing HTML or posting a thread like this on your XBox360. So on a console the priority is the game. Thats what the console does, it runs games.

Which brings me to what i wanted to talk about. With a PC game you can change the game, look at Neverwinter Nights and its Aurora Toolset. Without the toolset the game would of been dead long ago. If you look in the server list in that game you will see very few modules being hosted that were actually made by Bioware. Counterstrike, another example, they incorporated Warcraft 3 into a mod allowing you to level up and learn skills and abilities like entangling roots which wraps your target in roots making them immobile like the heroes do in Warcraft 3.

All of that was done with what you play the game on. A console cannot edit anything like that. This is why PCs will allows be superior to consoles.

And also, right this second i am playing Lineage 2 in a window, running GAIM connected to irc.starchat.net, MSN, and AIM and listening to Tool all while typing out this thread.

SUPERIOR I TELL YOU!!!!! BOW DOWN TO THE PC!!!

kudos...also if you ever experience frame rate problems on a pc you can easily fix it via drivers or changing the settings


lets see xbox do that haha


i want to see them make Shadow of the Collosus for the PC...i was stunned by what the PS2 did with it (even though it wasnt the greatest)...just imagine what kind of graphics a pc could dish out

Yeah but a PC would need a lot of expensive hardware(around $4000) to run the games at the kind of details possible on an X360. It all boils down to $$$. The X360 is available for $400, which is like 10% of the price of an equivalent(or possibly, more powerful)PC.

Read my system specs. I run Lineage2 with a NVidia Geforce4 MX440.

And that was my point in my post, you have to spend more because on a PC the hardware you have has to support a much more needy OS.

Claiming a PC is more superior than a console because you can chat on MSN, AIM, mIRC, listen to music and type on a board is inane. A console isn't made for silly chatrooms. It is made for gaming. You don't buy a Playstation or an Xbox to talk to a fat guy named Tiny who goes under the alias CaliGurl17 on AIM. You buy it for gaming. Also a lot of people try to justify how the PCs graphics are more superior with a top end card. The average consumer is not going to spend over $400 for a card when they can get a console for that much. The average consumer wouldn't tell the difference. Oh look Charlie can you see the shade coming off the tree. You can only achieve that with my Superduper Graphix Card x10. Also for the guy who mentioned frame rates. The console is set to run thier frame rates without having to worry about updating thier drivers. So to even mention that is just silly. To keep a top of the line PC people would have to spend at the very least $2000 that includes everything. That is a price of a used car. The average consumer won't spend that. Plus there is still no garuntee the game would work. Only a small percentage of computer users have hardcore gaming rigs. The question of which is better is rhetorical. You will have the hardcore pc gamers who will swear by thier machines. Then there is the hardcore console gamers who will swear by thier machines. It all boils down to preference and money. Some people invite friends over and play on consoles because you really can't huddle 10 people around a 19" LCD. Some people rather tote thier $1500+ PCs to LAN parties. So people have the money to buy a console and buy a few games that will work. Some people have the money to build a pc and buy games and if they dont work upgrade you pc until they do. A lot of people make the debate that FPS are better on pc because of the mouse and keyboard. Well how hard is it to move a cursor onto an enemy? Now imagine trying to line up a shot with two thumbsticks. Personally I like a challenge. Now if you're going to keep on this debate atleast keep the pc end to strictly gaming and keep the average gamer in mind. We all know a console isn't ment to talk in chatrooms or surf the net. So please don't use this inane argument. Also we all know you can't uprgrade the console with the next $400+ card. So please come up with something more credible. For the record I like both PC and Console gaming equally. Just depends on the game.

You want me to stick to gaming? PCs can be upgraded, consoles cant.
Thus PCs are superior.

Also, you cant "change" the game on a console without having alot of knowledge.(IE. accessing you xbox, hex editing the files) With computers you can do it generally easily which makes PC gaming better.

Made by the people for the people, or made by the corporate millionaires for the people? Of course that isn't always bad, but those same Halo2 maps get really old on XBox Live.

Take Neverwinter Nights for example, most mods are custom made. They have a patch out called the CEP(community expansion pack). Which includes hundreds of new character items, images, and more. That another expansion set for free, and you can even create your own items and submit them to the CEP creators and they can be included in it in the next update.

Again pc's can be upgraded. Yet at a cost which is usually more than a console. The average consumer will not spend that kind of money. If you think by uprgrading something makes it more superior than so be it. Go buy a 1988 Dodge Aries. You can upgrade the tires. So it must be more superior than a 2005 Dodge Stratus.

True you cannot 'change' or upgrade a console without knowledge. However the same reasoning can be true with PCs. Again the average consumer or novice PC gamer wouldn't know how to edit files or maybe even change out a CPU fan. It's easy for us because we know and we've done it. However we are more than average if we wern't we wouldn't be on this board.

I don't play Halo 2 so I couldn't tell you how old maps are. Some games get news maps while others wait and bring an expansion pack or a new sequel. Most game companies come out with a sequel or an expansion pack because it is more money and profit for them. Rather than releasing a couple new maps.

I havn't played Neverwinter Nights however you are forgetting one thing. The custom mods are only applicable 'if' the game plays on the average gamers PC. With a console there is no guessing game. If they were able to get it to work how many average/casual gamers are going to have the knowledge to create thier own items? I used to create a bunch of items for the original Sims but although it was very popular not many people did it.

You have to look at this from outside the box. On a casual gamers list of priorities. How many games for the PC is he/she going to build a highend PC for? Hoping the games will work. How many will go out an buy a console because they know it will work? Some of the top rated and highest selling games over the past few years have been for the console. With that much hype do you think the average/casual gamer is going to buy/build a dedicated gaming rig for thousands of dollars? Then have to keep upgrading to stay ahead of the games. Or buy a console and a game for under $500?

Well, with all that said im going to say im neutral...

For me, I like the customization (sp??) aspect of the games. I had played the Elder Scrolls 3 for a long time and i had loved it on the PC. When i went over to my friends house and played it on his Xbox, it just wasnt the same. Sure it ran a whole lot smoother on his Xbox than on my computer, but not having the keyboard and such in front of me while playing it kind of made the game on Xbox feel like the condensed version. But that's just me...im not sure which category i fit under (average or...above? lol)

Based on the average teen (coming from a 15 year old) were mainly impressed by graphics...and half of them could care less about computer parts. Most of my friends have never even SEEN an NES, so that don't know the importance of gameplay and such...for me i grew up with an NES and an old Mac (os 8 i believe).

And we can't blame corporate business's...i mean theyre not the ones buying the product are they? They know that the gamers or parents of them will buy these for themselves or theyre kids. I would have gone out and sat in the cold for an Xbox 360, except I was skeptical of it. To say they all were defective would be far from it, but i wouldnt want to have been one of the unlucky people to get one of those. I barely spent $100 for my ps2 lol.

So i guess what im getting at is, what does the average gamer want, graphics or gameplay? This applies to PC gamers to (especially when it comes to some of those newer titles *cough*oblivion*cough*)

Still this arguement has no purpose. We're argueing about price mostly.

Console - Cheap
PC - Expensive

We've established that, but the point is Consoles game, PCs can do everything which is why they are more expensive. Consoles may run games smoother sure, but its because they aren't required to be able to do as much as a PC.

Its like argueing that www.newgrounds.com is better than the WWW because it is funnier. Newgrounds is just one piece of the WWW, just like a Console is just one piece of a PC.

So yes, if you want to game and only game get a console.

Now if you want to be able to access endless amounts of information via your internet browser ,do the thousands of things a PC can do, and be able to make changes/create parts of your game but not run the game quite as well as on a console, get a PC.

Hell, i guess we could argue about how those little Calendar/Task Scheduler things are better than a PC because they are portable and work better than the task schedulers on a computer.

Next, we could argue about how IPods are better than a PC because they are portable and organize music better than a computer.

My point is, all of these are branches of a PC. IPods, Electronic Calendars, Consoles, DVD Players, CD Players, TVs, ect.

A computer can do all of what those can do, maybe not as smoothly but it can do it.

So when you buy a Console, you are pretty much taking a PC, removing everything from the OS except what it needs to run a game, putting it in a different more attractive case and then naming it a PS3 or Xbox360.

This is really a stupid thing to say. We're talking about PCs and Consoles not cars my friend. BUT if i was to take a Dodge Aries and fully upgrade it to the top of the line big block engine of today along with everything else you can think of to put on a car. It would be superior.

But i guess that would be like taking a old computer tower and filling it with Alienware system specs.

consoles are for games, pcs are for multimedia, lol, you cant compare em, and besides pcs have graphics, so what? since when has gaming been about graphics, lets see, oh yeah lets compare ghost recon againt soccom 2 or 3. the GR series have like wayyy better graphics when the soccom ones look like freaking crap, but hey, soccom games are wayy more gun and will the livin crap of any GR game out there, thats just to say graphics are not everything that makes a game good, only shallow people judge games to be better on that. and lol yes ps3 will own xbox 360, graphic smart that is, gameplay, again thats what reamain to be seen, altho hoesntly both and sony and nintendo have been better at developing games than microsoft, like they have that special skill in Japan for making awesome games . also its like the the ps2 and xbox, ps2 came out a year before gcube and xbox, so it had bad graphics compared to those 2, now its xbox 360 turn to seem outdated againt nintendo wii and ps3, it will be a year outdated in performance, but that doesnt mean that it is a bad console

Well, as i said THATS THE PROBLEM lol most kids will look at a game and say hey those graphics suck, or hey those graphics look really good....and theyll base there opinion on that


and i havnt bother to read all of this thread, but has it been arguing for 9 pages? lol ive seen some of this stuff on myspace but on there it was a bunch of retards saying.."hey your gay" over and over again..this is so much more...interesting lol