Please advise on this system for MMO gaming

By Godhand456
Apr 2, 2010
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  1. Hi guys

    I posted a few weeks ago and got some great suggestions on computer parts. However, being a computer newb I am more looking for system already built that i can just plug and play.

    I came across this system for a little over 2k.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227210

    my main purpose is MMO gaming so i am looking for a solid system that will last me a good 2 years. so can anyone give me any advice about this particular system and whether its worth the cost? I looked at each part of the system separately and it looks like the cost would be similar. Thanks in advance
  2. am2567323

    am2567323 Newcomer, in training

    haha

    upgrade your whole system man
  3. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    i dont understand. are u saying that system is bad? can u elaborate plz?
  4. EXCellR8

    EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,278

    you really don't need to spend 2 grand on a computer for MMO's lol. hell, you can build a great gaming computer yourself for under $1k.
  5. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

    am2567323 is either being sarcastic....or has no idea what he is talking about.....I think sarcastic :)
    yes that will do what ever type of gaming you would like.The 12gb of ram and the i7 960 are 'overkill' in that you can get the same gaming results with far less. The only thing I would advise is to check into the PSU and make sure its of good quality. but yes, that is a very competent machine.
    .....and what EXcellR8 said
  6. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    so thats system is overkill u think? i just like the fact that it was plug and play and once it comes in i can just hook it up and start and not have to worry about putting a computer together and risking messing it up. so thats why i was drawn to this particular system
  7. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

    defining overkill as you will probably will never come close to realizing its potential for the type of gaming you are doing, then yes. just wanted you to be aware that you can accomplish what you want for far less,...but hey, I like overkill. :)
    BTW, there are other P&P systems out there for less, here is an example. and this one is almost overkill for MMO
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229162
  8. EXCellR8

    EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,278

    adding on to Red's previous post... you can go overkill if you really want to (and it would be fine) but it's just not necessary for MMOs and even most mainstream games. If you're not familiar with building computers, perhaps it's time to learn. It's not hard at all and building custom machines give you a lot of flexibility; we'd be more than happy to assist you. of course you can just go out and buy something but where's the fun in that?
  9. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

    I will second that, lots of people talk about building a computer like they designed the CPU architecture themselves. the real genius is on the folks who did, the rest of us are just assemblers. so if you want to give it a shot I will add my help as well.
  10. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    well thank you all for the help. i would like to try to build one myself but i am afraid of forgetting to order an essential part or something lol. also if i do get all the right parts that i will accidently fry a piece of equipment. this is all why i wanted to just go with the safer approach with plug and play =). any good place on where to read up on building computers?

    thanks
  11. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,265   +41

    Spending 2 k usd on a prebuilt system is definately over kill for gaming. The one listed above by red would be more than enough to get you in a really nice spot for a while.
     
  12. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

  13. Relic

    Relic TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,392   +16

    Here are a few gaming PC builders you might want to check out if you do plan to buy P&P. They are iBuyPower, CyberpowerPC, Puget Systems & AVA Direct. I can't comment on the level of service or warranties they provide but I've had some gaming friends use them over building there own systems and they seemed satisfied. Just remember buying built comes at a premium.
  14. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    my problem is i have no idea "whats good". what i mean is u can list 2 video cards in a thread, one terrible and one very good, and i wouldnt know which was better lol. I am that much of a computer newb. So when i browse sites like newegg for motherboards and processors etc i am just lost. I haven't the foggiest idea what to buy that will best suit my needs for the lowest cost.

    This is what draws me to P&P systems. I dont mind paying the extra cost for the conveinence.
  15. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Hi Godhand456.

    If you're looking for a system only to be able to play MMOs then you'd be better off building a cheaper rig like others have already pointed out. If you feel you might foray into more demanding games in the near future then the rig you linked to looks really good.

    But, whichever way you see it, it's always better to try and put together a system oneself. I have to agree that for $2000 that system is plenty powerful but you could assemble a system that provides similar performance for cheaper.

    So, if you do decide to start building one just post back here with your budget (in case you want to climb down from $2K). We would be glad to help out and provide suggestions. :)
  16. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    ok

    well it seems the masses agree that is all about building a computer. I think i should just bite down and learn lol. it can only help. ok so as stated my focus is mmos. I want a system capable of playing the game on all high settings with a max frame rate. There are a few games coming out this year (final fantasy 14, possibly star wars old republic etc). that i definitely plan to pick up.

    again, i want a system that should be able to handle these games on high settings.

    my current system has a nvidia gts 8800 vid card if i remember correctly (my cousin built me this computer 3 years ago for about 1500 dollars). and i am really happy with that i got. I think i have 2gig ram and an asus motherboard. i think my video card is asus property too because i rememer having to find my way through their unfriendly website to find updated drivers for it.

    so anyways, my budget is 2k but that has to include monitor and keyboard. I am giving my current system to my stepson. i found a decent 24in samsung monitor for like 250 at a BJs near my house i was thinking of grabbing. so i need need the actual system.

    i would like 4gig ram this time i suppose. obviously if i can grab a great system for under 2k then yes lets do that lol. i really appreciate all the help and patience i am getting here. Hopefully one day i wont be such a computer newb. but hopefully biting down and just building a rig will be a good step in the right direction.
  17. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    oh and another small note, i rather pay a little more for a system i dont have to upgrade for awhile. i havent had to add anything to my current system for 3 years and it only now started getting me lower fps on some MMOs on high setting (age of conan for example). thanks in advance
  18. thomja

    thomja Newcomer, in training Posts: 93

    u needed it for 2 years.... that thing can last for 6 years without any lag...
  19. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Your current system should actually handle most current and future MMOs. :)

    However, these are the components I suggest:

    Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz - $194.99
    MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 - $159.99
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 2 x 2GB DDR3 1600 - $105.99
    SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB - $289.99
    CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W - $89.99
    COOLER MASTER RC-690 - $69.99
    Seagate Barracuda 1TB - $89.99
    Sony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B - $26.99

    Total - $1027.92

    If you want more raw power just get 8GB of RAM along with the HD 5870 instead of the 5850.
  20. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

    Here is a suggestion for a build. this wiil tear through MMO's...and then laugh at them :)
    The Mother board has a 2nd PCIE slot for future upgrades,should you become a Crysis fan. the case and Monitor are included in here as well. the PSU is a bit of an overkill, however its only $10.00 more than the 650w version, and you will be ready if you want to upgrade and crossfire.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435 mb 140.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727 cpu 185.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 mem 105.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150464 gfx 178.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 PSU 100.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118052 hsf 65.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030 dvd 26.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 twr 100.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001377 mon 210.00

    Total $1109.00
  21. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    can someone explain what crossfire is?
  22. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

    opps:eek:, I forgot you are not a computer guy....yet :)
    Crossfire is ATI's technology that allows up to 4 GPU's ( Graphics cards) to be used on the same system at the same time to boost graphic capabilities. the motherboard I picked in the build I suggested has two PCIE slots ( the slot you plug your graphic card into)
    so in the future you could add another graphic card in the second slot, and they will work in tandem to (in theory) to double your graphics capabilities. It works very well. i have just recently upgraded from triple crossfire to quad crossfire myself. Nvidias version of this technology is called SLI (scalable link interface) and roughly works in the same way.
  23. Godhand456

    Godhand456 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 18

    ahh ok, ya i definitely want that then
  24. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    That's a nice build there red. I myself am an AMD fan but always end up recommending the i5 750 'coz I assembled a PC for my friend with it and it performs exceptionally well. :D

    Just wondering though, with the OP's budget what do you think of the HD 5850 now and a second one in CF later?
  25. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,884   +77

    personally I like that better than a 5770 now and one later. I went with the 5770 only because it will run the games he plays at max settings. I went with the 965 setup as it will do more than the listed use, and saved a few bucks ( I have a monitor in there as well)
    BTW, I am fixin to build a new Machine and wish nvidia had put some pressure on ATI, I may end up paying more for my 5850 GPU's now than had I bought them at launch.:mad:
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