PNY GeForce 8400GS PCI 512MB Card

By steve45377
Jul 18, 2008
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  1. Tha General

    Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,225

    Well hello, let me guess you are from Rage3D?
    I have been talking with you teklord for a while now, never knew you knew of me on other forums.

    Anyways, i do not have the 8400GS anymore, it wide out my onboard sound board and i am force to use sound cards now, which is not a big issue, because my sound blaster is working great. I also have 2 other sound cards for backups, 2 diamond versions.

    Anyways, i am buying the HISX1550 next and the Sparkle 8500GT later. Seems to be Dx9 cards work better on my rig then those PCI DX10 cards, but the sparkle 8500GT may surprised me.

    peace
  2. teklord

    teklord TechSpot Maniac Posts: 523

    I know of you because you are always advocating PCI video cards in other forums and everyone is basically mocking you for it. I have seen you on 3 or 4 other forums at least and I admire your courage in the face of adversity. I would love to rig two Zotac 8800GT's together in SLI, but this computer I am using was a gift and it is much cheaper for me to upgrade parts on it than to build the rig I want right now. Plus, I am not committed to playing video games really, so upgrading this PCI only rig is best for me now.

    8400GS looks okay despite the 64-bit limitation, it is probably the best 64-bit PCI card you can get, but it is still less than half as effective as the Sparkle 8500GT.

    As for the sound card, I read that the Sound Blaster X-Fi series is very impressive but I have a used X-Fi card myself that isn't working on my system, so I can't compare it to my Audigy I am currently using.

    Remember that the GPU is completely separate from the CPU and other computer parts, so I advise going straight to the 8500GT for maximum results.
  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,361   +823

  4. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,623

    that card is a PCI Express x16 and will not even work in any system they are talking about and is blown away by most newer card of the PCI Express x16.
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,361   +823

    You would agree that it's better than an 8400 wouldn't you. I fully understand the higher the number, the faster the card criterion in Nvidia's nomenclature.

    If a system doesn't possess PCIE x16 capability, it might be time to think about stealing some hubcaps and buying a new one.

    I'm probably kidding about the hubcaps, at least I think I am.

    Oh, BTW the GT8500 has HDCP and 128 bit access.
  6. teklord

    teklord TechSpot Maniac Posts: 523

    Yes, PCI-e x 16 2.0 is what I aspire to, but everyone here is talking about PCI because we cannot or do not want to upgrade right now. Everyone that can't understand why we use PCI needs to understand that. I don't expect to play the latest and greatest with a Sparkle 8500GT PCI, but it is the best I can do under the circumstances and it is what I recommend to other PCI only gamers.
  7. Tha General

    Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,225

    In other words, PCI cards gets the job with the right setup.
  8. shadowscry2

    shadowscry2 Newcomer, in training

    I'm crying already ><

    I bought this GeForce 8400 GS 512mb PCI card as soon as it hit the market. In fact it was pre-ordered for two weeks. I have been using the GeForce 5200 just like the majority of you other posters it looks like. Well this is a short list of my PC specs :

    Windows XP Home Edition ( Service Pack 3 )
    2.66 GHZ Pentium 4
    2 GB RAM DDR
    160 GB Hard Drive
    500 Watt Power supply
    6MB ATT DSL internet

    I was REALLY looking forward to use this card to improve my FPS in World of Warcraft. The 5200 does fine but it's low to medium setting play. After installing this card and then updating the drivers to Nvidia's latest released 10-2-08, I optimized the graphics, first try set to Quality, turned anti-aliasing off and boom started the game.

    This card is performing extremely poorly for WoW. I have had to set the graphics almost to nill. Even with vertical sync and triple buffering, I'm ranging 15-25FPS and dungeons im at 35FPS. I've checked multiple troubleshooting boards and even the WoW forums themselves and it just seems Nvidia is having a ton of trouble with World of Warcraft Graphics. Every site recommended I go ATI RADEON for stability. I have yet to try this card on my other games, but after its seriously poor performance I just want to send it back as quickly as possible. I'm seriously disgusted with it.

    If anyone has had this trouble or uses this card to play Warcraft and has found an answer I may have overlooked in the setup of this card for WoW, Please let me know....
  9. Tha General

    Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,225

    I bought the PNY 8400GS Myself, a while back, too it back within a week because the card is too big and my system specs was holding me back.

    But Shadowscry2 your computer is a beast, so i don't see why you are getting bad performance. Have you tried other games with the card, if so, how was the performance?
  10. shadowscry2

    shadowscry2 Newcomer, in training

    shortly

    I'm giving the 8400 a second chance. I'm going to re-install a few games I like to play like the etire Dawn of War RTS up to Soulstorm. I have a few other games I'll try as well. I have been searching forums like mad for the reason this seemingly heaven sent 512mb PCI card is behaving so poorly.

    The feedback I've gotten is first the 64 bit bus speed of the card (supposedly the added 256mb tries to compensate for this >< ). Other feedback I have gotten is that World of Warcraft itself right now isn't too stable. I've gotten e-mails from fellow players who are running duo core systems with Vista and 8GB of RAM and not pushing their FPS past 20.

    I would definitely reccommend using the triple buffering and vertical sync features...I'm still messing with graphic detail levels though and its rather odd because LOWERING some of the details will actually also lower my FPS in some cases.

    WOTLK is being introduced on 11-13-08 and I've already pre-ordered it. I checked the sys req and it looks like it may fix some of the issues I'm having with this card.
  11. Tha General

    Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,225

    Well 64bit is not the problem believe me, i am using the BFG 6200 OC 256mb 64bit version and my games are running perfectly. I haven't played WOW tho, maybe i should check to see how it runs.

    Btw, is it possible you can return the card and get your money back, because maybe the 8500GT might be better.

    On a another note, someone on another forum is Hellgate which is a demanding game without too many issues and he is doing just fine.

    I think one flaw with the pny 8400GS, well the core and memory clock is low, from what i can remember the core is 500 something and the memory is 333. My BFG 6200 OC memory is 532 while the core is 352.
     
  12. shadowscry2

    shadowscry2 Newcomer, in training

    8400 GS a worthless buy

    Alright after experimenting with this card I've come to the conclusion it's an overly hyped piece of electronic garbage.

    Shortly after the 8400GS was introduced, Sparkle came out with the 8500GT and Albatron introduced the 8600GT, a 256MB DDR3 PCI super marvel.

    I really feel myself and anyone who purchased this PCI card jumped the gun a little early. Personally I will be returning this piece of garbage.

    One of the biggest differences when comparing this card to the 8500GT and 8600GT side by side the biggest difference was the 8500 and 8600 respectively both have the 128 bus speed interface, which makes a huge difference regardless of personal opinion. Why the hell would PNY make a 64 bit bus speed card they tote as a gaming card ?O.o

    Lastly, this card did not stack up to any of my expectations, nor the expectations that PNY seems to advertise it as. I would go back to my GeForce 5200fx card any day over this piece of garbage video card.
  13. Tha General

    Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,225

    Some people who use the card don't have a issue, but i also think the PNY 8400GS performs terrible. They have a new 8400GS BFG, but i don't know anything about.

    Just go ahead and buy the 8500GT PCI if you can.
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