Poor Quality American News

[Vigilante]

You got my meaning alright. I was just making a point in discussion about news "in general". Whether somebody is biased or not, left or right, religious, young or old, race or nationality, whatever. If their "news" is "fact", then is it any less worthy to hear?
After all a fact is a fact. So I guess my point is that presentation and omission of other facts, is what defines ones bias as far as news goes.
Because if the news is blatantly reporting falsehoods, can't somebody sue?

I think it would be an interresting study to hear the report of the SAME bit of news by a handful of clearly different thinking people!

Come to think of it, maybe I don't have a point. Just trying to spark a different thought process is all.

 

[IBN]

Whether somebody is biased or not, left or right, religious, young or old, race or nationality, whatever. If their "news" is "fact", then is it any less worthy to hear?

If somone is unreliable/bias then the news coming from them cannot be factual. Out of a whole presentation you can extratct out the facts. But even then the facts have there own coating and flavour and even then there may well be other facts which are not reported or given emphasis to. There may also be a history to the story which isnt reported .

I would say its a bit like statistics. Even though you have raw data and can make trends but that still isnt a real represenation of the reality of the situation. The conlcusion can be a complete lie but the "evidence" is apparently there to back it up. (This is one of the main reasons why politicians use alot of statistics btw)

Because if the news is blatantly reporting falsehoods, can't somebody sue?

I am not sure. You would have to ask a lawyer, to see whether there is a case. However this is such a big problem in the global community its not just a particular story; its a whole culture within the media globally. Hence it would be diffcult to take all of that to court.

How can you say ITV/ITN (pretty much same thing) is good quality?!

I didnt say it was good quality.

I don’t know how you can say ‘The Guardian’ is good quality, as it is one of the most sickeningly left wing papers I’ve ever read.

I didnt say it was good quality.

EDIT:
However they did show a few hard hitting documentaries which I liked. For example look HERE.

 

[Tacitus]

Why did you sort of like ITV then?

 

[IBN]

Because I didnt think it was bad as the others. None the less still bad though and definitly not good quality.

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to obtain news then? Check THIS video out. It starts off in Dutch for about 30 seconds or less and the rest is in english.

 

[Tmagic650]

Did you ever hear of the phrase "sex sells"? This goes for news anchors as well...

 

[DAVEO]

news today

Most News/Current Affairs Shows are are Hyped & Biased.
eg. FOX Network has never really show George W Bush in bad light because
Rupert has a Hard-on for him.:approve:

The reporters do only the stories that their editor approves and tell them to do. Corporations rule most privately owned media and and hype and sensationalism sell ($$$ Paid-sponsership & Advertisements)

In Australia we have the ABC (Aust. Broadcast. Commission) a Government funded National TV Channel.
It may be funded by the Government but its political views are not influenced by this. :grinthumb (long live the truth and free-speech)

The ABC has a weekly half hour show called "Media Watch" and thats what they do.
Exposing the Lies, Bias and Hype of the shows they catch out, and theres lots of them.
It even has a segment called "Reptile of the Week" Shaming the reporter telling these lies and half-truths.

IMO we need more shows like this to keep them honest.

Thus concludes the lesson today (REAL WORLD 101)

 

[sultan_emerr]

Tucker, is not a news anchor, he's a talk show host.

 

[Tacitus]

We established that about a month ago

 

[MrNemo]

I read the Guardian every day. American news, especially TV, is soaked in hyper-adversarialism, analysis before fact, corporate agendas... I just listen to NPR (WHAT A COMMIE LEFT WING MARXIST LENINIST!). What American's fail to realize is that in Europe, if someone says "I'm a Socialist!" the reply would be "...and?" God forbid someone say they are not religious in this country- atheists are pretty much universally hated or distrusted. Fox News is a joke- it is hilarious to watch. It is depressing, however, to watch one's girlfriend's father shouting "Burn Iran to the ground!" while watching it. There are some great books on the subject of news and the media, especially from the UK, scholarly books. They all verify that the only way to sell news is to analyze for the end user (they apparently don't have time to think for themselves), to create pseudo-events, to pawn off of tragedy, and to follow the agenda of the companies that own them or to continue giving their readers what they want (if they seem to be overwhelmingly right wing, keep giving them that, if left, giving them that). Let it be known that our weak American conception of the political spectrum is completely skewed. Japan's Left is probably farther right than our own Right. The UK Left is FAR more Left than our own, and in fact, I would argue that the US has no traditionally Western-style Left, or at least, it is such a minority that it might as well not exist.

 

[SNGX1275]

Let the thread die.

 

[howard_hopkinso]

Let the thread die.

I totally agree, it`s time to either let it die or close it.

Regards Howard