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i was the AnandTech FX 5600/5200 review and it made me wonder....
this wonderful new - middle of the range 5600 is being outperformed by a Ti4200 - but as soon as Dx9 games come out the FX will strip away all the other nvidia cards no problem.
The review also said that the 5600 would b $199 - which is about £130 in real money....so in july (the next time i will get some money) when im looking for a new graphix card i could have a GeForce FX for less than a Ti4600 now.....w00t!
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this wonderful new - middle of the range 5600 is being outperformed by a Ti4200 - but as soon as Dx9 games come out the FX will strip away all the other nvidia cards no problem.
The review also said that the 5600 would b $199 - which is about £130 in real money....so in july (the next time i will get some money) when im looking for a new graphix card i could have a GeForce FX for less than a Ti4600 now.....w00t!
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Damn right you are!
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mrslippyfist
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Steg, surely it would make more sense to go for the card that gives most bang for your buck though, which is undoubtably the ati cards, besides, why would you want a card that is slower than last years technology?
and Nvidia ruled the industry, we now have competition.... w00t
and Nvidia ruled the industry, we now have competition.... w00t
PreservedSwine
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Originally posted by timmoore
I think you misunderstood me, I was inquiring about the effective memory bandwidth. For example, the 5800 Ultra's effective memory bandwidth is 32GB/sec, and the raw is something like 16GB/sec. I am going to buy an FX because I am a NVIDIA man, and I am very impressed with the advanced features it comes with. IMO, the tests were unfair as the drivers used were BETA and not properly tested in the same situations before. I think that the FX series will perform much better with different drivers.
You are being duped into marketing hype....
The only way to compare bandwidth, at the moment, is to compare raw bandwidth. When you take into effect bandwidth saving techniques, the platform changes continousley, and you end up w/ hypothetical number rather than actual. Hypothetically, ATI actually employs an 8-1 bandwidth ratio ( under peffect conditions), and the R9700PRO can claim "effective" bandwdith near 90MB/sec.....
of course, it's ridiculous to compare bandwidth that way, as games *never* give hardware the perfect conditions that must be met to employ 100% efficiency.
If you've read any number of reviews, you'll find that the FX5800ULTRA offers considerably poorer fsaa. The FX's 4xFSAA does appox. what ATI's 2Xfsaa does....and so on. The FX5800ULTRA seems incapable of rendering fog, it is rumored to be a hardware issue, Nvidia has not commented. Nvidia has dumbed their current BETA drivers to FP16, as opposed to FP32. Also, the FX5800ULTRA is not for sale, the people that do have them have yet to recieve WQHL drivers, and it seems only pre-orders are being filled, so unless you've pre-ordered one, you're going to get the 400mhz version. The FXULTRA was stillborn, over $100 more expensive than card that's been out for over 6-7 months, and the FXULTRA can't even outperform the R9700PRO with AA and AF.......isn't AA and AF the reason for spending the $$ for such a monster card? IQ wise, the FX just didn't show up......
I hope they at least made adjustments to theor FSAA algorithm w/ the NV35......along with a properly optimized 256 bit bus...
<QUOTE>You are being duped into marketing hype.... </QUOTE>
very possibley, but i will still prefer nvidia to ATi anyday, i have had some trouble with both ATi drivers and tech-support (bac in the days when i didnt no 1 end of a gfx card from the other) in the past, which is why i went to nvidia, and now i think i am going to stay with them. When i come to buy a card in 4 months time (i have a Ge3Ti200) i will NEED DX9 support to play Far Cry etc. - therefore it looks like it will have to be a FX 5600 - or if they do an ultra version - mayb one of them
thats my 2 cents
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very possibley, but i will still prefer nvidia to ATi anyday, i have had some trouble with both ATi drivers and tech-support (bac in the days when i didnt no 1 end of a gfx card from the other) in the past, which is why i went to nvidia, and now i think i am going to stay with them. When i come to buy a card in 4 months time (i have a Ge3Ti200) i will NEED DX9 support to play Far Cry etc. - therefore it looks like it will have to be a FX 5600 - or if they do an ultra version - mayb one of them
thats my 2 cents
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PreservedSwine
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5600 isn't a bad choice, but just realize in mostr all reviews, they are comparing the FX5600 on low quality settings, while benching the ATIR9500/9600 on High quality settings..
On Equal settings, the 5600 is about ~300% slower than an R9500PRO
Great HardOCP review here http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDQ0
Nice to see a graphics card review go into detail about graphics quality....
On Equal settings, the 5600 is about ~300% slower than an R9500PRO
Great HardOCP review here http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDQ0
Nice to see a graphics card review go into detail about graphics quality....
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