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Re-Building My Computer, Need To Make Some Decisions

Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by TL93, Jun 4, 2008.


  1. I know about OCing, and I just am not that much into it.

    Simple. Lets say we're talking about getting and OCing a Core 2 Duo alright?

    Intel builds their CPU's like so. Generally, their CPU's are built well, the more money, the better and sturdier the build.

    I.E. The Core 2 Duo E6300 is built with cheaper materials than the the Core 2 Duo E8500. This is where OCing comes in. Sure, you can probably get double out of the E6300, maybe even more if you OC it just right, but it's not going to be as stable as the E8500 at that same speed, simply because it's built with better materials.

    Anyways, that's getting off subject, what I was intending was that AMD = More BFTB (Buck for the Bang) Intel = OC Heaven

    It depends on what you're into. And what are you talking about, I would've known the fact that the Athlon x2 outperformed the P4?

    I was just suggesting the cheaper build, taking in that this guy was probably around my age (16) and was building a budget computer, because I didn't want to do the research to find out. So I told him the AMD build.

    Okay, Sorry that I ruffled your feathers there bud.

    -Elvrage
  2. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    LOL

    We're not talking about making cabinets here mister, the materials you're talking about were never in question. I suppose it would be if they discovered some new superconductor, or semiconductor with superior properties, and were bringing them out in a new line, but unless I missed out on something, the E8500 and E6300 were built using the same technologies (I'm talking materials, processes, etc, not circuitry blueprints)

    Secondly, you're talking about 2 different CPU lines. You might as well be saying that the Core2Duo that runs at 2.13ghz can be overclocked to the same speeds as a Dual Core Pentium 840EE, and it wouldn't be overexagerrating the point.

    In my Overclock FAQ, there's a little on the fabrication process. Here's an excerpt:

    I don't mind being corrected if I'm wrong. I will of course doublecheck whatever information in question.
  3. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,246   +16

    I just hate it when misinformation is being spread around. Fabrication processes do not work that way, since that would increase the cost of producing higher-end CPUs, and make Intel less likely to produce them. The majority of the cost when making a chip goes into the R&D behind it. Every chip that comes out of the fabrication process has imperfections, which means each chip has a different range of safe operating temperatures and frequencies according to Intel. Thus, while chip A may only be able to run at 2.83GHz stably, chip B may run at 3.16GHz stably, thus chip A will be branded as an E8300 while chip B will be branded as an E8500, despite coming from the same fabrication process.

    The above is simply a detailed version of what CMH has quoted from his FAQ.
  4. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Yeah, its just like making chocolate! They make a whole bunch of spherical chocolates, the nicer tasting ones they sell as M&Ms, while the crappier ones they sell as Smarties!!

    *p.s. M&Ms are produced by Mars, Smarties by Nestle.