RIAA and Sharman legal battles continue

By Phantasm66
Dec 2, 2002
  1. The U.S. District Federal Court Judge is currently hearing the case for summary judgment against Sharman Networks, parent company behind the P2P file sharing service Kazaa. The Federal Court Judge will listen to further arguments from both the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Sharman, who both want the summary judgement motion settled by the judge without going to full trial. The RIAA and the copyright holders want Kazaa network shutdown immediately, whereas Sharman is contending that there is not sufficient evidence to legally do so.

    Will Kazaa go the way of Napster? Post a comment now.
  2. vassil3427

    vassil3427 TS Rookie Posts: 640

    I can't stand the RIAA, I hope Kazaa(Sherman Networks) wins.....
  3. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +7

    in a perfect world they would, but i think that the money and influence that the RIAA has will no doubt lead to a victory on their part.
  4. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Yeah, I'm sure P66...RIAA will find some way to cripple KaZaA, even if they don't win the case, which they'll most likely bribe and cheat...

    1/2 the malicious viri on KaZaA are probably the work of the RIAA. I can't stand them.

    I think their site needs to be hacked a few more times.
  5. running

    running TS Enthusiast Posts: 70

    As part of what I do, I'm researching the Music Industry and their history, and I can tell you that they don't have the guts to assume their totalitarian digital police role completely. It already happened a few decades back, and the result of their copyright complaining was that independent artists got a chance. They know perfectly well that independent labels and artists are ready to make themselves known through the media, and are anxious to free themselves from the monopoly.

    Perhaps at some point I'll post a thread with the evidence and historical references, so you can dare them and say: "You greedy b@!$~@!s, I dare you make the same mistake again!" Maybe before I finish my Ph.D.
  6. MoRulez

    MoRulez TS Rookie Posts: 65

    I thought it wasn't possible for Kazaa to be shut down since there is no centralized server (which Napster had) to shut in the first place. If Kazaa goes down, then we will have to say goodbye to the freedom to share files of any type over the internet in a program which is VERY WRONG!!! Can anyone imagine a world we would have had without Napster or any other file-sharing program!!!!! ITS INSANE!! These huge corporations want money any way they can, and we, the average person, cannot let them win !!!! VIVA LA KAZAA!!!!!!
  7. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 322

    If theres no centralized server, how are they going to stop existing users from using Kazaa???

    Or am i missing something here?:confused:
  8. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    There IS a centralized server from my understanding. KaZaA is NOT true P2P. Now, gnutella and edonkey do a much better job of P2P in this respect.
  9. SleeperDC

    SleeperDC TS Rookie Posts: 184

    the shut of napster is already stupid enough...
    hope RIAA won't shut down all the P2P networks one by one...
  10. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    I'm sure that is their thoughts, which is a bad thing IMO. They just need to quit complaining, because they are still making a LOT of money.
  11. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +7

    I think the point is that now that the cat is out of the bag, there is nothing that can stop P2P technology. Something will just spring back up in its place, probably offering a more expansive service (like Kazaa after Napster) and that will likely be designed to circumvent the very legal problems that killed Kazaa.

    But Kazaa may still prevail.
  12. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    I don't even use it, but I hope it stays alive.
  13. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +7

    You don't know what you're missing....
  14. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    Reason it isn't used is due to a campus firewall. If I had a chance I would probably give it a shot.
  15. MoRulez

    MoRulez TS Rookie Posts: 65

    umm...VIVA LA KAZAAAA!!!!!!
    Unite my fellow net users!!!!!
  16. conradguerrero

    conradguerrero TS Rookie Posts: 310

    When I installed Kazaa, I got all these spyware warnings ...

    I don't want someone sending me targeted ads, spam is bad enough in e-mail.

    Is there a way to avoid the spyware?

  17. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 322

    Hey, Conradguerrero, use KazzaLite - its a stripped down version of Kazaa with no spyware.
    Just look on any serch engine for "kazaalite" and you'll find it...
  18. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 5,734   +7

    Yes kazaalite is very good.
  19. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    I prefer Diet KaZa.. But I haven't used KaZaalite in awhile.

    On some systems where using 3rd party software isn't a good idea or too much to fool with, I just edit the hosts file to block KaZaA's web address. It blocks all the ads and startup page.
  20. conradguerrero

    conradguerrero TS Rookie Posts: 310

    Wow! So there's two other KaZaas out there.
    Which one is better to avoid ads:
    Diet KaZa or kazaalite?
  21. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 322

    Well, i dunno about Diet Kazaa, but KazaaLite has no ads and no spyware...
  22. minnesota_slim

    minnesota_slim TS Rookie


    we might have some simil;ar research issues- can you please contact me at I am researching the legal aspects of copyright issues as they relate to P2P filesharing and one important topic for me is whether the RIAA can still claim to promote creativity. Please contact me if to discuss.

  23. Legal Arguments


    I would tell the sharman legal team that the argument they should make is that record companies charge artists for distribution to encourage popularity. This incurs a cost that has to have an effect on the end price of a cd. Sharman should simply argue that they offer a distribution service free of charge that would eventually result in the reduction of CD cost to the consumer and therefore should actually be entitled to a percentage of sales.
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