Apple TV requires a separate box? Why? netflix and Hulu are built into Blu-ray and PS3 etc, and if Apple has a competing service we'd need to buy another box? I hope Apple or Google (or somebody) provides a decent internet TV package, but don't make us buy another box.

Since when has apple run their software on anyone else's hardware dude? think.

Finally, a 1080p Box, i can't believe the last one didn't have the ability to output 1080p...

he's not saying they have

he's saying it's stupid because they're not

This would be the first time they're selling a software product.

I understand though... they didn't get to be the biggest tech company in the world by selling you one thing, when they could force you to buy two at twice the cost.

Don't like apple; don't like TV.

was thinking about getting this friend has one jailbroken amount of content was huge

well, its worked out pretty well for them so far.

I looked for Apple TV last Christmas season but was told you'd have to visit and Apple Store for them. It was at Best Buy i think.