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Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Rick, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. stewi0001 TechSpot Enthusiast

    I personally don't agree with piracy, but I know it is hard to prevent. As for the media cry babies (aka Hollywood and Big music whoevers) what they need to do is change their business model. If people love your music, movies, or videos; People will buy your stuff to support you.
  2. its like dude, you tapped into peoples cell phones and created falsified stories about people and events... seriously why are you not in jail... oh yeah 99%
  3. Tomorrow_Rains Newcomer, in training

    Why piracy is linked to murder, breaking and entering , assault and rape is beyond me. So by downloading an MP3 by lil wayne i have just raped and assaulted an innocent person.

    Taking that in context, Anti-piracy laws so far have been successful in obtaining losses by obtaining IP addresses and sending the "pay or else" scheme. i need to check my facts but i'm pretty sure i heard that Hurt locker made double what the movie costs in just suing people. and once they made enough money they backed out of the claim.

    But remember, An IP address is not a person
  4. Lurker101 TechSpot Enthusiast

    If an IP address was a person, I'm sure most Techspot regs would be sectioned for severe multiple personality disorders.
  5. Thankfully we take little notice of the poison pygmy here, what a tool!
  6. princeton TechSpot Addict

    It's nice to know that after 1,529 posts, you're still using an argument that was debunked years ago. A company does not have money taken away from them when a product is pirated. They lose "potential revenue" which is a meaningless figure because somebody who pirates software wouldn't have spent money on it anyway, or they would have done so. You actually lose your physical property when somebody steals your personal belongings. Perhaps you should invest some of your money into some debate courses where they will show how to avoid fallacies and build strong arguments.

    EDIT:

    After examining your posting history I believe these articles may assist you. I would read them fast though(within ~4 hours of now), because Wikipedia is blacking out due to uninformed people making legislation about piracy when they don't understand it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
  7. @Princeton By your logic, since I would never purchase any software in the first place, it is OK for me to just pirate a copy and use it, as the creators of the software would not loose any money.

    Though stealing the computer that runs the software is a crime.

    Seems to me you are attempting to justify a crime.

    crime
       noun
    1. an action or an instance of negligence that is deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state and that is legally prohibited.

    2. criminal activity and those engaged in it: to fight crime.

    3. the habitual or frequent commission of crimes: a life of crime.

    4. any offense, serious wrongdoing, or sin.

    5. a foolish, senseless, or shameful act: It's a crime to let that beautiful garden go to ruin.
  8. TomSEA you can't stop piracy is correct...what you can do is make affordable legal alternatives and if its well receive that will reduce piracy..Look at the music industry...everyone under the sun was downloading music for free illegally...Then itunes came along....people had a legal way to get music...but it was still too expensive...yes $1 something per song is to expensive....but now Spotify and other legal alternatives offer FREE or very cheap all you want for a low monthly fee service and a lot more people stopped pirating because it actually took more work and effort to pirate. Sure they ain't making boatloads of money like they use to but the times have changed...either adjust or fight a losing battle!! There will always be pirates.....just make it easier and cheap enough for the regular folks and they will never think about pirating!
  9. princeton TechSpot Addict

    Keep attacking that strawman buddy, it won't make your argument any more valid. I never condoned piracy, and I never claimed piracy was okay. I simply pointed out the failures in logic and the false analogies used in TomSEA's arguments.

    You might also want to read over the article I posted about straw man arguments, as it would have prevented you from making such an embarrassing post. You'll have to disable javascript to view it though, because people who share the views of people like you and TomSEA have pushed Wikipedia to block all English articles on their site due to abhorred legislation regarding the subject of piracy.