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Samsung rumor roundup: Galaxy S IV, cheaper Note 2, 13.3-inch tablet

By Shawn Knight
Dec 3, 2012
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  1. Samsung's Galaxy S III has served the company well for many months, launching the Korean firm into direct competition with Apple's popular iPhone. It's a powerhouse Android handset but as is typical in the tech industry, enthusiasts always have their...

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  2. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    5 inches? Really?

    I love my S3, but I can't do bigger than this. And 1080p on a 5-inch screen is pointless; you can tell this phone is aimed at the Android core fanboys who automatically translate more as better. Which is sad too, because this is the equivalent of the whole "more megapixels is better" mentality that surrounds less knowledgeable consumers.

    Screen tech such as Nokia's ClearBlack, or a 60Hz LCD display (found in the 920) is what would really benefit consumers. Other advancements in the inner tech itself such as how AMOLED brought low-power consumption displays into the mainstream--not merely increasing the pixels--is what is noticeable and practically useful.

    And you'll see, just a mere month after fanboys buy the S4, they'll be desperately looking for a 4K display on the 6-inch S5.
     
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  3. Lionvibez

    Lionvibez TS Enthusiast Posts: 597   +89

    Couldn't agree anymore!
     
  4. captainawesome

    captainawesome TS Guru Posts: 414   +42

    Screw all those megapixels and 1080p screens on a 5 inch phone. I want a phone with 3x the battery life. the battery life on the S3 is horrible :(
     
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  5. misor

    misor TS Maniac Posts: 1,020   +153

    If samsung releases a 3.5" to 4" entry level (cheap, 100-150$) android 4.XX, then I'm buying one.

    if not, then my samsung galaxy y (android 2.3.6, ~290mb+ internal memory + microsd) will be with me for a long time.
     
  6. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,119   +723

    Can you please wait until we get a picture or official specs before ripping apart a new phone? Every time a new phone is rumored the owners of the current latest model (or the owners of the competition's lateset model) spout off about the screen being too big... resolution being too high... upgrades being pointless, and the phone being for fanboys etc. Sounding so bitter with nothing but rumors to go off of makes you only sound jealous that the phone you spent your money on isn't the latest and greatest anymore.

    Anyway... did you see the other rumor about the S4? It may have a flexible screen.
     
  7. Blue Falcon

    Blue Falcon TS Enthusiast Posts: 150   +41

    How is larger screen with more pixels the same as "megapixel" war of compact cameras? When I watch movies or play games on a phone or use it for browsing the internet or GPS, or viewing pics, I will bet people will instantly be able to see why a 5 inch 1080P smartphone is actually an improvement over a tiny 4 inch screen of certain competitors. Samsung is actually extremely smart since they realized a LOT of consumers want something that is not quite as large as a tablet but still large enough to improve your media consumption tremendously. If it wasn't for Android, Apple would still be selling us 3.5-3.7 inch iPhone 5s and telling us how awesome they are....
     
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  8. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    The size portion is more of a personal knock than it being a negative in general, as I know a lot of folks do like larger screens.

    The display portion, however, is a general complaint. At the distance you'll be using your phone, 720p and 1080p are indistinguishable. At the same time, consumers will have to make trade offs because the screen size is not only above average, but because such a high resolution will require more power (see HTC J Butterfly reviews). Samsung will probably offset this by adding a bigger battery that will 1) take longer to charge and 2) be big. All for show and no practical advantage.

    As for the rest of your comment, there's really no question this device will carry 1080p. Sure, I don't have a source, but HTC recently released the first 1080p phone in Japan. It only makes sense Samsung will follow suit, for two reasons:

    1) Samsung is the "developer" Android OEM. Most of their phones come with unlocked bootloaders, they currently deploy Android updates the fastest, and most if not all their phones come with removable backs and SD card slots; must-haves for geeks and developers in the Android community.

    2) Samsung is part of Android, where, unfortunately, OEMs have the liberty to try and fail at certain things. They usually do this by implementing technology that's not ready, regardless of the customer experience (see first LTE devices).

    This disregard of the customer experience, plus their appeal to the geek/dev Android community pretty much seals the deal.

    P.S. That rumor started before the S3 even came out. In fact, rumor was that the S3 would have it, so it's not new.

    You're the exact uniformed consumer Samsung hopes to sell this phone to.

    Not only you can't really appreciate both the increase in pixel density and resolution that 1080p brings in a 5-inch device, but at the distance you'll be holding such device the difference will simply not be seen unless you hold it a few inches from your face.

    The reason why this is analogous to the "more megapixels is better" mentality is because, just like your comment showed us, you think higher is better. When it isn't.

    Cameras are not only about megapixels. That's why the HTC Titan II (a 16 Megapixel phone) takes garbage photos when compared to the iPhone 5 (who has a 8 Megapixel camera). There are other factors that qualify a camera as better, just like there are other factors beyond resolution that make a display better.
     
  9. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,119   +723

    lawfer, I didn't say you were wrong. The points you make are good ones, and I understand and agree with them. I'm 34 years old, I can't even focus on something a few inches from my face, let alone try to find pixels in a 5 inch display. For me anything over like 275ppi all looks the same. But... 1080i doesn't look as good as 1080p even though the detail is the same. The HTC One X supposedly has a nicer display than the S3 for reasons other than resolution. So yes, more resolution doesn't equal a better display, but a next gen phone usually does, because they throw in all the other stuff that does make a better display. More brightness, less glare, darker blacks, more accurate colors, etc... so let's wait till someone sees it before assuming the phone is simply a marketing stunt.
    I could repeat the same argument about cameras with aperature, image sensor etc. You get the idea.

    There will always be people willing to buy the latest phone. Carrier subsidies mean that S3 owners probably won't get an S4, but anyone who's got a contract up for renewal in 2013 (and new buyers of course) will want the latest $200 phone. Right now that's the iphone 5.
     
  10. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    I don't understand. You just said what I said. Here's a quote from my first comment:

    I briefly mentioned some the very screen tech you listed. Low power consumption, higher contrast, deeper blacks, higher fresh rate are all additions and improvements (just like the other ones you listed) that are more practical than a mere resolution increase.

    Also, you imply that the increase in resolution on the S4's screen would bring these other advantages by default, when I'm arguing the opposite: that such screen tech improvements <I>do not require</I> the rumored increase in resolution that comes with more trade offs than advantages.

    In essence, a 720p display with all the improvements of this phone's next display is better than a 1080p display with the same improvements.
     


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