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'Six Strikes' piracy warning system headed to the US this year

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  1. Shawn Knight TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,692

    Internet providers in the US are moving closer to launching a planned "six strikes" antipiracy program that would impose progressive warnings followed by penalties for those found violating copyright infringement laws on the web. The program is said to somewhat...

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  2. Shaun2312 Newcomer, in training

    Lol
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  3. ryanb2145 Newcomer, in training

    Guess they better start blocking out of country encrypted proxies too then.
  4. noel24 Newcomer, in training Posts: 23

    Well, considering how arbitrarily corporations can throw cease and desist orders for smaller entities in the cyberspace, that will be the end of freedom of speech of the internet. It will become the tube for governments/corporations like radio and TV before. I wonder if one could setup a new, independent global network using existing hardware with modified firmware like they did in Egypt during revolution with the ancient fax/short wave radio or whatever they were using.
  5. amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 457   +54

    George Orwell's 2012.
  6. Jim$ter Newcomer, in training Posts: 70   +9

    Same as DRM ... It doesn't and won't work. People will find ways around anything like this. Sounds like it will only end up cost ISP's more time and money and guess who will end up paying for it in the long run...us. The only way to slow down piracy is to have cheaper legal alternatives. Music is finding it's way with Spotify and related services. Now if Movies would get on board with a similar service. Till then...good luck with that.
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  7. SCJake Newcomer, in training Posts: 77

    @Jim$ter youre close

    I encourage you to look into the few numbers that have been able to slip between the production companies fingers:

    9.99 for the album on itunes... ~$5.35 goes to the production company, ~$2.70 goes to itunes (understandable due to hosting/marketplace). you do the math....

    and you dare tell me that the pirates are the main baddies? Yet the amount of people who are only advertising through youtube/facebook/word of mouth and making just as much as the number 1 song in the nation while theyre not even on the list... hmm... what seems easier.....If someone snuck into UMG HQ with an AK I wouldnt necessarily applaud them, but I wouldnt lose much sleep over it...
  8. Why would anyone be against this? hate getting caught? Don't say "what if its not me"? well, there its easily found out if its indeed not you. Quit your crying and go on about your business as usual, nothing will change for the people that don't do it.
  9. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    You'd be naive to believe that.
  10. Why would anyone be against this? How about because as the law is written, ISPs dont differentiate between legal and illegal torrent downloads. You DO know that not all torrents are pirated or illegal .. right? This law would punish 'everyone' who downloads a torrent even if that torrent is a 100% free and legal file.
  11. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    Not only that but it would essentially cause some businesses to go bankrupt, or even be tried for crimes because their software or business practices are now illegal.
  12. You guys are scared little kids... torrents are fine, its the illegal ones they care about. Grow up. I know your "movie" collection is now going to dry up but you could just simply go and buy them.
  13. davimous Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    I'm lucky enough to live in Canada where as far as I know I can download all I want. Just can't let people upload from me. I don't really download much anyway so doesn't effect me either way.
  14. Did that say it was about to be shut down in france? if so why?

    by the way I have full confidence masking downloads is good these days unlike a few years ago. so laws like this are in a uphill battle to be successful. this one sort of made sense if you could imagine its implication as not mimicing 24/7 wire tapping. which is a huge violation of civil rights when you get down to it.
  15. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    As I said, if you think they'll stop there, you are both naive and sadly mistaken.
  16. treetops TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,385   +12

    Hmm maybe "pirating movies" will turn the way of free porn sites. In the form of streaming. Porn sites are full of nearly any copy righted porn you can think of but riddled with viruses. Then maybe they will crack down hard on copyrighted streaming including porn. Well there is always homemade porn. Maybe if they are successful blockbuster will make a comeback and rent us movies at 6$+ a pop again. Of course the entertainment industry would have to stop selling so cheaply to netflix and redbox.
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  17. BLARG! Newcomer, in training

    This is stupid. Companies are not learning to innovate themselves for a better future. I'm not against the idea of the law biting down on piracy, but to a significant extent piracy can improve sales if not stabilize them. A good product promote's itself to be purchased when observed by the downloader. In a store often you have the privilege to look at a product but online or in cyberspace you don't. It doesn't guarantee product value. So what if you watch a movie earlier or play a game for free for a while. If you have the intentions to buy something you enjoyed you'll buy it. You know the only reason piracy get a bad wrap is because it's associated with something far worse. Real piracy that happens in the Bermuda and many of the Asian oceans. Some 82 year old congressman isn't going to know the difference between the two. All he'll assume is that he's saving lives not restraining them. We fuss so much about this **** yet we don't lock the drugs out of this nation and take the war to the drug lords. We fight in other countries not for peace but for oil. I love my soldiers but I want them to fight for Americans not for their pockets. The irony to this all is that all the rich twats who care not to spend a dime on the things they download will get crushed by the law, as anyone who doesn't make money at all would not be worth pursuing. If you want to improve something start with the bottom not the top. Anyway's that is the end of my rant. Take care and try not to stick your head up your arse too much corporate nazism.
  18. fimbles TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,023   +55

    Good luck paying for the lawsuits.


    Still would love to know how an ip adress can be linked to a specific person.
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  19. Tygerstrike TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 760   +72

    I just laugh when I see this. I doesnt effect me at all. I dont download anything. I dont use my PC for entertainment( movies ect). The only ppl who really should be worried is the super abusers. They are the ones the ISP is going after. The little ppl who download a movie or a song will prolly glide in under the radar. Ten to one there will be protocals that dictate certain levels of downloads or amounts of downloads will process a strike. Also im sure the ISP will keep track of those companies that do legal torrent downloads like WoW. I mean really ppl, what did you think they were going to do? Keep allowing ppl to "steal" from them? This is only the begining. Im sure there are even more draconian plans in the works to keep ppl from pirating. All it would have taken is a drop in piracy. So you only have yourselves to blame. All you the individual person had to do is not pirate for awhile. But you reap what you sow. Im going to enjoy watching this one play out. Im 100% sure that this will be intereseting to watch.
  20. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12


    And this, gentlemen, is what the general public believes.