So you only have PCI slots and want to game?

[teklord]

jojodancer - the 9500GT shows up as PCI-e x1 in GPU-z because it is originally a PCI-e card that was made into a PCI card. This is a serious performance problem which is why no one has given you a direct answer yet and I don't think you have gotten close to the root of it yet. Card maybe DOA.

electromagnetic - you can cut out the back end of your PCI-e x1 slot and put a PCI-ex16 1.1 or 2.0 card in that slot and it will work at x1 speeds. Also you can saw off the lanes on a PCI-e x16 card to make it fit and it will work. See Yukikaze about it because he has done it successfully.

 

[electromagnetic]

jojodancer - the 9500GT shows up as PCI-e x1 in GPU-z because it is originally a PCI-e card that was made into a PCI card. This is a serious performance problem which is why no one has given you a direct answer yet and I don't think you have gotten close to the root of it yet. Card maybe DOA.

electromagnetic - you can cut out the back end of your PCI-e x1 slot and put a PCI-ex16 1.1 or 2.0 card in that slot and it will work at x1 speeds. Also you can saw off the lanes on a PCI-e x16 card to make it fit and it will work. See Yukikaze about it because he has done it successfully.

I will never cut up my PC.

 

[Tha General]

Tha General, by looking at my GPU-Z date, have you found anything unusual?

You could try using older drivers, say the 175.16 drivers if your card is supported, or the 185.85.

Getting this card after January, can't say why.
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B239202&viewSpec=y&showold=#productTop

Gaming performance should be much better with that card, let us know when you finally get it

I will never cut up my PC.

LMAO, i wouldn't do that either

 

[godson]

Hi everyone

Getting this card after January, can't say why.

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B239202&viewSpec=y&showold=#productTop

Do they ship in the U.S?

 

[electromagnetic]

Do they ship in the U.S?

I will ask them for you. Although there is a Contact Form to ask them yourself.

 

[jojodancer]

ok, I have returned the card and ordered a HIS HD4350 PCI.

Now my Dell is back with Radeon X1550 PCI and I think ATI Redeon chips are more friendly to my Dell.

The HD 4350 will support my exisiting1080p 24" HD LCD and a future Blu-ray rewriter (on my Christmas shopping list).

If this HIS doesn't work, I will get a EVGA 9400GT and stay away with SPARKLE stuff for now.

 

[Tha General]

Well the 4350 is more powerful in HD IMO, hope it works out.

 

[jojodancer]

yeah, 9500GT only supports 720P but HD 4350 goes up to 1080p.

 

[Tha General]

yeah, 9500GT only supports 720P but HD 4350 goes up to 1080p.

how much are you spending on the 4350 anyway?

 

[jojodancer]

The 9500Gt cost me $80 delivered.

Now I only added extra $9 for the exchange to HD 4350.

 

[jojodancer]

So what are the average optimal FPS that you can squeeze out from a 9500gt, 9400gt or HD4350 PCI?

 

[Tha General]

So what are the average optimal FPS that you can squeeze out from a 9500gt, 9400gt or HD4350 PCI?

I am going to tell you like this, because i was using pci cards for years, i was obessed with them lol, i only saw a big increase in performance when i upgraded from my Pentium III 600mhz to my Single Core 2.4ghz LE-1620 processor which i am using now. I seen about a 30% to 40% increase in game performance.

You have a Pentium4 3.06GHz, i had a Intel Celeron D at 3.06ghz which i think is slightly faster over p4. When i was using my 8400gs, it ran games better, even with my 2400hd. However, some games didn't work good at all, because i needed a better CPU altogether.

So really the best 2 cards for the PCI is the 4350 and the 9500gt. However, OC is no point, you just need to enjoy what you can with your rig or plan to upgrade to PCIE later.

What games are you having trouble playing anyway, and what Resolution are you playing?

 

[jojodancer]

Happy Thanksgiving!

Don't have the HD 4350 yet. It should arrive on Sat! Also, I have sold my Radeon X1550 and my Dell 2400 is running the onboard video card! This is such a weak card and is designed for typical office use.

I am an old schooler. Still playing with old games like Call of Duty 2. I used this to test the X1550, 9500 GT, etc. Before this Dell 2400, I had been using my old Dell XPS R400 (upgraded with 1.6 MHz, Geforce Ti 4600) and the Call of Duty 2 responded very well in this machine!

If the HS 4350 performs well, probably I will get some newer games (but not the lastest power / memory sucking games!).

 

[jojodancer]

btw, here is my Dell 2400 specs now (bit outdated, but good enough for my need

Window XP SP3
P4 3.06GHz
2 GB DDR ram
500GB Hitachi ATA hard drive (boot drive)
1TB SATA Western Digital Green hard drive (secondary) w/ ATA to SATA RAID controller
1 floppy
1 LG DVD 22x multi Rewriter
1 Pioneer DVD 16x multi Rewriter. Will be replaced by a 8X Blu-ray LG Rewriter very soon
550W Corsair ATX 2.2 power supply
10 port USB hub
2 port Frewire hub
1 SATA external hub

ACER 24" H243H 1080P LCD Monitor

 

[Tha General]

What resolution are you playing games with?
Also , nothing wrong with playing older games, i have 444 pc games, i play old games all the time.

 

[electromagnetic]

Do they ship in the U.S?

Got there answer.

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your interest in LambdaTek.

Unfortunately we do not ship to international locations.

Kind Regards,
LambdaTek - Sales Team

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B239202&viewSpec=y&showold=#productTop


Try this one

http://www.computersources.biz/C2S_Products/C2S_ProdDetailsL1.ASP?ref=M4192309

 

[Yukikaze]

yeah, 9500GT only supports 720P but HD 4350 goes up to 1080p.

Both cards support up to 2560X1600 output.

 

[Yukikaze]

You have a Pentium4 3.06GHz, i had a Intel Celeron D at 3.06ghz which i think is slightly faster over p4.

It isn't faster.

 

[Tha General]

It isn't faster.

Then i am kinda shock to why he is haviing trouble with a 9500gt, unless he is trying to play very demanding games at high resolutions.

 

[jasonbernal]

great

yesi think you can do that too!

 

[jojodancer]

So which one has the edge? A 1Gb 9400GT PCI or a 1Gb 9500GT PCI?

I guess not much different. Correct?

 

[teklord]

So which one has the edge? A 1Gb 9400GT PCI or a 1Gb 9500GT PCI?

I guess not much different. Correct?

There isn't much difference because of the PCI bottleneck. If you want every last frame you can squeeze out of the card then get the 9500GT.

It would be cheaper to buy a 9500GT PCI-e in America and saw off 15 of the lanes or saw off the back end of the card slot on the mobo but if you don't want to mod then you are stuck paying for the PCI-e x1 9500GT.

9500GT is a lot more powerful than a HD 3450, even on PCI.

 

[jojodancer]

The HD4350 was ok. Average 10+ FPS on Call of Duty 2 but was totally dead on blu-ray movies and even not that great on DVD movies. Again, for some reasons, this card did not work well with the PowerDVD.

Anyway, I got a EVGA 9400GT 1Gb PCI at Frys on the weekend and now it plays blu-ray really well except Batman The Dark Knight (too much juice needed???). Boyz, all these movies look super nice via the ACER 24" 1080P LCD. However, gaming goes back to 3 FPS (WTF!!!!!)! As you said, there must be a bottleneck somewhere or I just need more time to twist the card.

On the other side, there are so many good deals coming out this holiday sale, I think I am going to get a decent mobo / Quad Core and forget this PCI video card BS.

 

[Tha General]

Can you tell me what resolution you are you playing these games at and at what settings?
you never did answer my question to that.
You shouldn't be getting 10fps in COD2, hell i got up to if i can remember 18-35fps at 1280x1024 almost max settings with AAX2 on my Intel Pentium III 600mhz with my 2400hd and 8400gs, when i was gaming with pci.

 

[jojodancer]

I went for the optimal setting determined by the game (1024x768).

Man, I would be in heaven if I could get 18-35 FPS!!!!

What kind of setting did you use?