Stardock releases free Start menu app for Windows 8

By Jos
Mar 7, 2012
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  1. One of the biggest gripes that longtime Windows users have with the latest -- still in development -- operating system release is Microsoft's decision to pull the classic Start menu…

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  2. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,489   +292

    I've been using the CP since it came out on a secondary PC, and aside from the initial uncomfortableness of not having a Start Menu, I've become pretty accustomed to not having it, It actually turns out a lot of us "Power Users" didn't use the Start Menu very often anyway. Pretty much anything that you need to do in the Start Menu you can do by a Windows + F or just pinning it to the dock, er I mean taskbar :)

    There are quite a few of us sharing our opinions on the CP in a thread in the Windows OS forum.
  3. psycros

    psycros TechSpot Booster Posts: 697   +212

    Worst..UI...ever.
  4. Justgivemeaname

    Justgivemeaname Newcomer, in training Posts: 37

    I wouldn't say its the worst UI ever. Windows 8 is just before its time. The entire OS is based around using a touchscreen, and it is beyond annoying when you have to scroll to the right to reach the 2nd set of tiles because since most monitors AREN'T touchscreen (yet) there is no simple swiping to slide over to it. It's almost as though Microsoft designed windows 8 for a tablet or phone, but decided to use it as a desktop OS instead at the last minute. There's a whole list of other issues I have with the OS, but I'm getting ready for work and don't have time to type it all out now cause it would be time consuming. Long story short, I'll be skipping 8 and sticking with Windows 7. I just sincerely hope that the next windows OS after 8 isn't just 8 in a new package.
  5. fimbles

    fimbles TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,251   +135

    Have noticed most articles on windows 8 seem to be ways of adding features from old versions of windows.

    In a clicks per operation basis windows 8 is indeed the worst ui ever.
  6. I just tried it for the first time and being a power user I thought I would hate it....but you know what...Its not to bad. I got to figure out how to get to some things but over all I think it's an excellent start menu replacement which I hardly ever used before..Might actually use this one.
  7. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,489   +292

    I've seen the clicks per operation argument brought up. Aside from suspend/sleep/hibernate/power off I don't really think its all that bad. And really, if its bothering you that much, then take 30 seconds to change the behavior of your power button (ie- press to shut down, or hibernate, or whatever). Once you get a program installed, it is in your Metro interface, then its 1 click to launch. Thats a lot less clicks than start, programs, find the dir its in, click program.
  8. Any time you install Windows (any version) you always need to add more software to make it useful.

    At least this new menu looks a little like like Linux Mint's menu. That is good.
  9. The term "Windows Power Users" is an oxymoron. Get an operating system that really works and learn how to use it.

    If you do not understand what I mean then you better stick with Windows. It fits you well.
  10. Sorry, after 20 years I'm just used to having icons and folders on my desk top not "pastel" tiles.
    This really needs to have the option to select "classic" windows desktop otherwise I don't see this taking off In an office environment where people have just made the adjustment to Windows 7.
    Seriously??......pastel tiles...maybe It's just my monitor.
  11. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,147   +172

    They need tiles of some sort... maybe they went with pastels now so you can upgrade later :)
     
  12. "The term "Windows Power Users" is an oxymoron. Get an operating system that really works and learn how to use it."

    I have used Linux, Solaris, Windows, and Macintosh. Each operating system can cater to power uses so it's not an oxymoron. If you feel all smug about using a "real" operating system whatever that might be, then so be it but don't try dragging down other users.

    As far as I know, a lot of science software is on Linux so that's when I have to use Linux. A lot of engineering software is on Windows so I use windows a lot since it's my profession. A lot of design applications is on either Windows or Macintosh so my friends switch between them (at home he's on a Macintosh but at work, he's on Windows). Each operating system IS real AND WORKS really well for the intended purpose.
  13. "This really needs to have the option to select "classic" windows desktop otherwise"
    They do so don't need to worry. They did not really force anything onto us besides the stupid and annoying removal of the start button. That's just kind of sudden.
  14. Colour scheme looks familiar. Windows for workgroups?? Maybe perhaps OS/2??? ;-)
  15. NTAPRO

    NTAPRO TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 807   +91

    Seems like a good move by Stardock. Feels that there will be general complaints about the new UI and offers a solution :D
    Basic business lol
  16. I though the Metro interface was totally optional for non touch devices, but nooo, they have to shove it anyway.

    Windows 7 is the next XP, in 2020 it will still have a strong presence.
  17. The Start Menu is not missed. Right-clicking the bottom left corner gives users a short menu of utilities and that is really all that is necessary. If you want to restart or turn off Windows quickly, use the Win key + R and type in "shutdown" and -r or -s, followed by -t 0.
  18. So, if you now how to run a specific application, you are a power user? Good for you.

    I was talking about operating systems and operating system tasks.

    Try adding a 1000 users, deleting a 100 users, add operating system software (do not forget to restart 2 or 3 times). Add a word processor (do not forget to restart again). Have a 100 people login to the system (do not forget to purchase a 100 terminal services licenses). Find all the processes owned by a user and kill the processes (no cheating, by loading third party tools).
  19. 3DCGMODELER

    3DCGMODELER TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 307   +18

    They should have the Metro or touch thingy as an Option........ Daaa ...

    I don't Like the Metro, Looks Ugly. No touch screen here, use Dual monitors, have a 3rd if i need to use it.

    It Will be along time tell I get a Touch-Screen, My AutoCad and 3D Apps, and various other Apps, are not touch screen savy...When u need alot of screen realestate, Touch screens won't fit the Bill.

    Isn't that why there are "Hot Keys", Power user here... Long time Power User...

    Hot Keys are your friend, map your keyboard .. 100+ keys that can be programmed
    to start App's...

    It's so easy, I may use the start button, once a week..If that..

    Restart windows, hot-key, and enter..
  20. Microsoft took the lowest common denominator interface (phone) and decided to use it for everything. If I had a smart phone or tablet maybe I'd like it but for a desktop it is a very poor design.
  21. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,489   +292

    What prevents you from using hotkeys in Windows 8? And you obviously don't have to use a touch screen to use the Metro Start, if you have more than 1 screen of apps the scroll wheel on your mouse moves to the 2nd page. You could arrange all the apps you use often on the first page of the Metro screen. If you have so many apps it takes multiple screens then a simple Windows Key + F and type the first few letters of the app would work.

    Everyone that bitches about Windows 8 seems to have not used it yet, or only used it for a couple hours (and I'd guess they exaggerate how much time they've spent on it). I haven't seen anyone post on the forums about having spent any significant amount of time on it and still say it sucks. It seems quite the opposite, the more you use it the more you like it.
  22. TJGeezer

    TJGeezer TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 385   +10

    Sounds to me like Win 8 is the normal between-OSes pay-for-beta version by Microsoft. No biggie, I'll just skip it. Though if I ever get it to install in a VirtualBox VM, I'll play with it to see how it does on my non-touch screen system. So far it has choked and I don't feel driven to make it work, the way I did with early issues of Win 7 on a system that came loaded with Vista. (Making sign here to ward off evil at the mention of, you know...) Or maybe it'll install better in a VM on my Mint 12 PC
  23. "So, if you now how to run a specific application, you are a power user? Good for you.

    I was talking about operating systems and operating system tasks."

    Well we're talking about advanced users or "power users". You're talking more about system administration so that does not matter in this context. So yeah... good for you too.
  24. "So, if you now how to run a specific application, you are a power user? Good for you."

    No it's not about running specific software. It's about using advanced features of the operating system, tweaking and modifying, and etcetera. It's something along the line of:

    "A power user is a user of a personal computer who has the ability to use advanced features of programs which are beyond the abilities of "normal" users, but is not necessarily capable of programming and system administration."

    In my case I also know programming and make use of it to allow the operating to do other advanced tasks. However, I don't know anything about mass computer system administration.
  25. "A power user is a user of a personal computer who has the ability to use advanced features of programs which are beyond the abilities of "normal" users, but is not necessarily capable of programming and system administration."

    I agree, but most of the time it seems that if someone knows how to use their scientific or engineering program they consider themselves "Power Users" and know nothing about the OS, except to click on their program.


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