AH HA!!! I got it! :approve: MS moved stuff around in Windows 7. AND! : i also found, by default Windows is already doing basic (vs. verbose) device logging! (at least so i found for my Windows 7 Pro install) So before we do anything else: Do you see a file C:\Windows\inf\setupapi.dev.log on your currently installed system? /* edit */ Oh. and just saw you posted at same time... Not sure what you mean.... by "Hmm its sort of similar for me.... "