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Strange Radeon 9800 Problem

By PuzZah
Jun 13, 2004
  1. $oulo

    $oulo TS Rookie Posts: 79

    Thank you =)
    I actually heard about those drivers just recently and I if I remember right? The only thing those drivers will really help out is the X800 but it wont do much to the 9800pro 128 =\ Either way I had a bad REALLY bad experience with "beta" a long time ago so I stay away from beta's now. Thanks again for the help though :grinthumb
     
  2. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,919   +9

    Re: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You can see that from Device Manager, select "View resources by type", if I remember correctly.
     
  3. $oulo

    $oulo TS Rookie Posts: 79

    THANK YOU!!! I hope I can get this thing finally fixed been 1 FREAKIN MONTH now and it still runs like crap! =\ Been pissing me off more and more as the days go by. I have formatted somewhere around 10-14 times now.
     
  4. rookieone

    rookieone TS Rookie

    Ok lad, everything's falling apart in my box.

    I took sound card out cause apparently Audigy's can have problems with Nforce2 chipsets. That managed to stop the clicks and pops in the sound in games, but I still crash out of Far Cry every 5 minutes.
    So, not video, not sound. I changed my IRQ's and that didn't do nuffin.

    I was reading over on nforcershq.com and I came across a mention that some Kingston double sided RAM can Memtest fine but still crap out when under load. So I am going to do a switch for a while with one of my mates chips and see if that improves any..

    This is the ordeal of a lifetime.
     
  5. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,374   +289

    Please don't use vulgarity on these forums.
     
  6. MartinM

    MartinM TS Rookie

    I solved the problem on my card. It was the heatsink. ATI has this stupid new system of attaching the heatsink through spring loaded plastic pins instead of screws or something similar. Anyhow one of the pins was out so that when I would put the card in my pc and the heatsink points down after awhile it would loose contact. Not really noticable through the clear side of my case, so I never even thought about it. Anyhow, I pushed the pin into place and voila. Now all is well.
     
  7. $oulo

    $oulo TS Rookie Posts: 79

    NICE! Buddy :) But my problem is beyond that =\ I wish thats all it was.......
     
  8. rookieone

    rookieone TS Rookie

    My appologies, and I have edited my post accordingly, but as you might imagine I am getting quite frustrated with my machine. I will try and refrain from doing so again.
     
  9. InsaneMonkeyBoy

    InsaneMonkeyBoy TS Rookie Posts: 201

    This sounds familiar

    I currently have a 9800 pro 128mb but i suppose I am one of the lucky ones without any problems. HOWEVER some people may remember the problems I was having with my 9700pro (gigabyte) WOAH did it take a while to find out the problem. AND yup suprise suprise MartinM had the same problem. I dont know if yours hapenned by the same way mine did but it was gigabyte's fault. Initially the card had a memory problem, they fixed that but they must have forgotten to put one screw in the heatsink (leaving three left) when I found out that it still wasn't working I sent it back and they accused ME!! of unscrewing it and voiding the warranty. The CHEEK of it!!

    I can't complain now though cause they gave me a complimentary upgrade. (so they should of) I was without a working computer for over half a year!!


    Good luck $oulo with fixing your problem.....i know how it feels





    PS: Dont get gigabyte graphics cards. Technical support is real bad
     
  10. $oulo

    $oulo TS Rookie Posts: 79

    HAHAH Trusty ole Gigabyte, I had a friend who's PSU EXPLODED 3 times before he realized it wasnt the PSU it was the mobo. I also had the same brand mobo as him, and low and behold the mobo was pure crap, Many heating problems even underclocked, It was turning on and off by itself, and finally in the end it COMPLETELY fried my processor, I mean the thing was smoking hardcore. So gigabytes trusty little pos mobo cost me 80$ for the mobo and 175$ for the burnt CPU. I ended up getting an MSI mobo which I love MSI btw much better hardware and bang for the buck. And a new processor. Gigabyte told me the same story, it's not the mobo it's something else, you have bad hardware, even though I didn't after massive checks and hours on end trying to figure this out between me and my friend who actually fixed comp's for a living prior to the military. I will NEVER in my life purchase another gigabyte product EVER they could of at least been somewhat helpful about it.
     
  11. InsaneMonkeyBoy

    InsaneMonkeyBoy TS Rookie Posts: 201

    OOOOO.........OUCH, that must of sucked.
     
     
  12. mpgrimes

    mpgrimes TS Rookie

    Hey Puzza... im guessing your using an gigabyte board? here is a secret wiht gigabyte boards that most of the bios's had..

    when you enter the bios, press CTRL-F1

    you may be surprised to see that there are more options available int he setup than were there before
     
  13. $oulo

    $oulo TS Rookie Posts: 79

    Soooo......Puzzah did you ever fix it? And what was it? PLEASE let me know
     
  14. cstalin

    cstalin TS Rookie

    No one has a solution to this problem? I jsut got a brand new comp 3 days ago a amd 3200, ASrock k7vt6 motherboard, Audigy 2 zs, 516ram and a power color 9800 se. Im having the same problems I can play a game 5-10 minutes and then bam it freezes with a loop of sound.I tried everything from switching around all my pci slots to reformating 10 times to installing 10 different drivers for the sound card and video card.
     
  15. cstalin

    cstalin TS Rookie

    Def Check your IRQ ports. I think I just fixed my problem. I went to device managment and for some reason i had a IEEE 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller on the same IRQ I disabled it and now it seems to work. Im not sure what an IEEE is Im guessing it was my Ethernet card. Ill keep you posted if it was this or if the problem arises again.
     
  16. WilliamA

    WilliamA TS Rookie

    hello everyone!
    To everyone having a problem with their video card I feel for you because i'm having a problem and I help and I figure this would be the best place to turn to! My knowledge of computers is very very rudimentary. I did download the updated bios file and the file to help memory problems from the biostar site but I have no clue what to do with these files.
    I just built a system with the following specs:
    Biostar m7ncg 400 board
    Amd Xp 3200 chip
    1.25 pc 3200 ddr ram
    120 gig Maxtor HD
    Ati 9800 Pro SE with 4.9 Catalyst drivers (with VPU recover msg disabled)
    using onboard sound card for now
    Win Xp with Service pack 1 installed
    Whenever I try to play doom 3 or even Counter Strike: Condition Zero I can only play these games for a few minutes before either the system shuts down entirely or i can hear the sound looping but the system freezes and I have to restart it manually.
    If anyone can help I really really appreciate it. Welps it's off to do homework while I have the doom3 shakes ;)
    William
     
  17. slstill

    slstill TS Rookie

    Worked for me.

    Had exactly the same problem as everyone else.

    Specs:

    AMD FX-55 CPU
    2G ram
    Asus A8V Motherboard
    ATI 256 9800 Pro
    Windows XP (Home)

    The good news - It runs every program I have (including Half-life 2, Far Cry, Doom 3, and UT2004) with every option turned up to highest and at 1280X1024 with frame rates up in the 70s.

    The bad news - Most games shut off after 5 or 10 minutes.

    I tried everything from new/different ram, reinstalling everything, newest drivers, etc.

    Finally found the answer (in my case anyway). I bought the ATI Arctic Cooling fan for the graphics card and installed it. Haven't had a problem since. Even though the motherboard was running at about 85 - 90 degrees, and the CPU was running at about 113 - 120 degrees, apparently the ATI card was running too hot for it's own good.

    I would advise trying this before reinstalling windows or other such time consuming actions.

    The fan is about $30, and well worth it.

    Hope this helps.
     
  18. cstalin

    cstalin TS Rookie

    Well my computer wasnt fixed as I thought. I sent my 9800se back and got a new one. Same problems. Now Ive been trying to convert Movies to play on my Lyra Movie player and the computer keeps freezing. Ive decided to run Prime95 to test the CPU and Ram. The comp freezes on test 1 and test 2. I get an error while running test 3. Im gonna start running memtest98 all night tonight to see if I get any errors. When I did a quick test before when I switched the setting to Memory Bios-All I got like 10000 errors but that might just be because my k7vt6 doesnt support that test so im just gonna run it in Bios-STD mode all night. Hopefully its the Ram because I dont feel like sending my whole computer back to the Company I bought it from I have to much Work on it now.
     
  19. cstalin

    cstalin TS Rookie

    Weird My computer reset itself after like 2 hours of memtest 98. I have no idea what this means though?
     
  20. PuzZah

    PuzZah TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 51

    Sent via email to me. So posting it here as requested.
     
  21. braindamage122

    braindamage122 TS Rookie

    I'm having this problem, it's so much fun!

    Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB DDR
    MSI K8T Neo2 + AMD 3500+
    Kingston 1GB DDR RAM (one piece)
    400w power supply

    I've tried another power supply, it didn't solve anything. And al those ATI updates and all that.

    My screen goes blank in Comand and Conquer Generals. But, I have also had this probelm (monitor shut-off) when viewing certain websites with Internet Explorer.

    Just wondering if people are having this problem both in and out of games.

    Thanks.
     
  22. eitama

    eitama TS Rookie

    Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB Problem Solved!!!

    Well, after 3 months of endless battles with this card,
    Which did not want to work at 8x speed for more then 3 minutes at any game and graphic settings, i decided to take it to the store,
    They changed it, and told me that it was overheating because of some broblem it had, so i got a new one (warrenty) and installed zalman zm-80C+OP1 Fans and cooling thing... Now i can overclock it, and play 8x and fastwrite and everything works smooth like a babies ***!!!!!!!!

    This card, rocks! P.s. Best program to overclock is ATItool...

    This card really heats it's self up... otouched it before zalman cooling and it burned my finger...

    My Specs:
    Asus p4s8x MOBO
    Intel P4 2.4GHz 533FSB
    512MB some ****ty vendor, ddr333 (not dualChannel)
    Maxtor 7200 IDE 60G
    Creative Live!Value with Cambridge PcWorks... Great sound system.
    MS Forcefeedback pro 2 Stick.

    Well guys. talk to ya.
    Bah Bye.
     
  23. catawalks

    catawalks TS Rookie

    Umm...one thing I would try is fixing the cooling in your case. I used to have the same problem with a 9800pro back in the day. And the way I fixed it...atleast for the couple of days that I had it was to have the side of the case off and had a usb fan pointed directly at it. But if you are going to be keeping the card I would suggest either getting better cooling for the card or for your case.
     
  24. InsaneMonkeyBoy

    InsaneMonkeyBoy TS Rookie Posts: 201

    I dont believe it!

    Oh my god I dont believe people are still haveing problems with the Radeon 9800 pro! I'm still getting problems with mine and its been over 6 months since i had my 9700 pro replaced by the 9800 pro. Puzzah have you solved you're problem?

    My 9700 pro used to completely crash and it turned out to be a faulty card due to the memory. i just recently bought a dell inspiron 9200 with a 9700 pro inside and it works really well. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to play half life 2, doom 3, far cry, rct 3 on the move anywhere!

    Yeah anyway, about the 9800 pro. If i'm playing any game (and i mean any) after half an hour of playing or sometimes a couple of minutes it locks up, then a high pitched beep constantly sounds, along with loads of colours all displaced around the screen and then vpu recover comes in. when its disabled the computer locks up so nobody tell me to turn it off, cause it's there for a reason. To Recover.

    Sorry for being a tad agressive but you must feel my anger after a lot of money spent, and a lot of time wasted to get poor gameplay. I think i might change to nvidia.

    Thanks in advance for help. :giddy:
     
  25. Dan Nukem

    Dan Nukem TS Rookie

    9800 Pro and XP

    Hi, my problem is similar but hopefully simpler.
    My Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro has not handled the clean upgrade I made from Win98 to XP Pro (SP2).
    It only works in VGA mode, immediately going to blank (no signal) screen when I try to get it to use it's hardware, leaving Windows running in the dark.
    It used to work fine in Win98 with none of the problems you have all been describing.
    My old Geforce 2 works fine with the setup so at least I can blow up Mechwarriors.
    I have updated ATI drivers, I have not updated monitor drivers, or reloaded Win98 to see if the card still works with it.
    Any ideas?
    :bounce:
    Mobo: MSI KT4AV (Via KT400a chips)
    Athlon XP2800+
    512 MB DDR400
    Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis 128MB
    Win XP Pro SP2
     
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